ID Totenkopf officers France 1940

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ID Totenkopf officers France 1940

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Post by PATRICK CHARRON » 12 Jan 2012, 22:32

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SS Officers Totenkopf France 1940
Hi,

I try to identify these two SS officers

This pic was published in french magazine 2ème Guerre Mondiale Nr 28 2011 French translation by Pierre Tiquet of SS-Oberscharführer Martin Brückner‘s war diary (Kriegstagebuch)
The text refers to the 2 SS Totenkopf Regiment in France 1940.

„In a french city, two officers of the 1st Company are delighted with the end of the fights and their presence in a country that they will greatly appreciate „

I found these two officers leading this company.

Ostuf Marienfeldt, Herbert DOB 1. 4.10 in Kiel SS Nr 327 354

Chef,1./T.I.R. 8.40

Hstuf Kalthofen, Hans-Heinrich DOB 25. 4.09 in Riesa/Elbe SS Nr 22 226

Chef,1./T.I.R.2 5.40

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Re: ID Totenkopf officers France 1940

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Post by Charles Trang » 13 Jan 2012, 00:23

The officer standing on the right is a former member of SS-Totenkopf-Standarte 1 "Oberbayern" as he is still wearing the regiment's armband. I do not have Marienfeldt's Personalakte and Kaltofen's files are nearly empty (no Dienstlaufbahn for instance). So it is difficult to say who are these men ...


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Post by PATRICK CHARRON » 15 Jan 2012, 22:48

Hello Charles,
Thank you for taking time to reply
Looking better at the picture, I think the officer on the right is older than Marienfeld and Kaltofen who are both around thirty years old.
He must be at least forty and could be Bertling born 1998 and Kr SS Totenkopf Regiment 2
Isn’t it a honor chevron for old campaigners on his right arm?
The officer on the left looks like more a camp man than a fighter.

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Post by Charles Trang » 15 Jan 2012, 23:45

This officer has the double Totenkopf collar patch. There is a picture of Karl Herrmann in "Soldaten Kämpfer Kameraden", page 286, which has been taken during the summer of 1940 : his right collar patch has a leaf and not a Totenkopf. Bertling led SS-T.IR 2 before Herrmann and it is definitely not him. Commander of I./SS-T.IR 2 was Fortenbacher and it is not him either.

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Re: ID Totenkopf officers France 1940

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Post by PATRICK CHARRON » 26 Jan 2012, 18:01

Hello,

Following an exchange of mail with Bogo a member forum, it appears that the text of the Tagebuch is actually the partial translation of the book of Herbert Brunnegger "Saat in den Sturm" Stocker Verlag 2000 and Ares Verlag 2007, most photos are not related to the text.
I could see myself comparing a few text pages

The photo shows then really officers of the Totenkopf Division but may be not from 1.T. SS Rgt 2 and could be from another regiment.

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Post by Peter » 21 Jul 2014, 11:50

Can anybody ID these officers now ? thanks Peter

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Post by Peter » 05 May 2016, 13:17

Nobody ?

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 05 May 2016, 13:28

one the right Karl Herrmann?

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Post by Peter » 05 May 2016, 17:02

thank you, Peter

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Post by Georg_S » 09 Jul 2023, 20:32

Old thread but I can rule out Hansheinrich Katlofen b., 25.04.09 Riesa. When I have compared the photo I have on him there is no resemblance between those to officers and him.

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