SS-Ostuf. Willy Peter Hansmann, 12. SS-Div. HJ

[jan willem stokkers]

Yess thats also my idea. I was just looking through my files.

Gr.JW

[Moniroth You-Bell]

I suppose Stun could be Franz Sdun, transferred from 1./AA LAH to the AA HJ as an SS-Rottenführer on 9 June 1943.

Harro, is it Franz-Gunther Sdun?

[jan willem stokkers]

I suppose Stun could be Franz Sdun, transferred from 1./AA LAH to the AA HJ as an SS-Rottenführer on 9 June 1943.

Harro, is it Franz-Gunther Sdun?

We read his name on the transfer-list which was found at the Freiburg Archive during a visited and it only gives Franz Sdun. Maybey you can tell us a bit more on the "Gunter" or you have maybey some more info on him so we can have a look i've there is a match!? None of the AA.12 i have spoken to has any info on Sdun.

Gr.JW

[Harro]

SS-Mann Franz Sdun is also listed in April 1941 as one of the members of the 4. (schw.) Kompanie who received the EK2 after the Balkan Campaign, but also as Franz and not as Franz-Günther.

[Moniroth You-Bell]

Gunther Sdun

B:10.5.24 Bergendorf/Ostpr.
MIA 3.45 Wien
Uscha. 1./SS-PAA.12 3.45


This is what I have on a ( Sdun)

[jan willem stokkers]

The Günter Sdun is not the Sdun which is listed in de files from Freiburg who came from the A.A.1LSSAH.
Günter Sdun is born 10.05.1926 and not 1924! I already had the impression it would have bin this younger soldier but you never know ofcourse but wenn i saw the date of 10.05.1924 i knew it was not the Sdun of A.A.1.LSSAH (source of the exact date is the DRK.Suchdienst München Vermisstenbildliste)

Gr.JW

[Harro]

Also, if Günther Sdun was an SS-Unterscharführer in March 1945, he cannot be the SS-Oberscharführer Sdun in Normandy.

[Ste]

"Conduct Unbecoming" reports him as Oberscharführer LEOPOLD Stun.
However,I can't tell if it's right or no.

[WorldwarBill]

Gunther Sdun

B:10.5.24 Bergendorf/Ostpr.
MIA 3.45 Wien
Uscha. 1./SS-PAA.12 3.45


This is what I have on a ( Sdun)

MIA in March of 1945 would not have been Vienna, as the fighting there did not begin until April, unless he somehow was lost in an air raid or other unusual circumstance. The record probably should have said 4/45 but there was an error.

[Ste]

Gunther Sdun

B:10.5.24 Bergendorf/Ostpr.
MIA 3.45 Wien
Uscha. 1./SS-PAA.12 3.45


This is what I have on a ( Sdun)

MIA in March of 1945 would not have been Vienna, as the fighting there did not begin until April, unless he somehow was lost in an air raid or other unusual circumstance. The record probably should have said 4/45 but there was an error.

Wien should be the place from where his last message was sent.

[seaburn]

Just the say, the spelling in the document is 'STUN' but of course SDUN is pronounced the same (to English speakers anyway) . Have any of you got any information on 'O’Lt PALM' who was also mentioned. When I read that name first, it struck me as odd, not very Germanic in my (limited) experience. Could this also be any incorrect spelling ?

[jan willem stokkers]

I only know an Ustuf.Palm of Nach.R./Abt.12 HJ but he was in 1.SS already in 1941.
There has been officers from WH in every Rgt./Btl. of HJ i know of 2 Feldwebels in 2.Kp. but sad enough no names

Gr.JW

[seaburn]

Tks JW. obviously the name 'Palm' is more Germanic than I thought !

[Moniroth You-Bell]

Is this the Palm involved?

Joachim Palm

B:12.6.24
Ustuf. 12.SS-Pz.Div 10.44
SOJ. 13.KJL,J.Sch.Braunschweig 8.44
Strm. 1.SS-Pz.Div 6.43
SS: Ustuf:1.10.44

[jan willem stokkers]

Is this the Palm involved?

Joachim Palm

B:12.6.24
Ustuf. 12.SS-Pz.Div 10.44
SOJ. 13.KJL,J.Sch.Braunschweig 8.44
Strm. 1.SS-Pz.Div 6.43
SS: Ustuf:1.10.44

Wenn reading the report on page 1 of this thread we can see that Becker is talking about an Ober Leutnant so even wenn he was involved he did not even had an officers rang with-in de w-ss at that moment. Like sad there have been many WH officers within the HJ-Div. and this Palm was NachrichtenAbt.12

Gr.JW