Is this a KC-holder of the Waffen-SS ?

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Is this a KC-holder of the Waffen-SS ?

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Post by Waffen-SS » 17 May 2015, 22:32

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Post by Georges JEROME » 18 May 2015, 01:21

parade in front of a unit of the "Regierungstruppen des Reichsprotektorats Böhmen Mähren".
Can't identifie the nature of the neck award .

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Post by Andrey » 20 May 2015, 13:51

Hello,
Might be this information little help you with ID.
This is "Horch" Kfz.16 on photo from 3. SS-Panzer-Division "Totenkopf" (see Waffen-SS license plate numbers list).
His SS-rank looks like SS-Staf. to me...

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From "Nummernblöcke der Waffen-SS 1940, (SS-Führungshauptamt Tgb.Nr.174/41).

Numbers (from - to) Unit

151 - 200 SS-Zentralzeugamt f. SS-Hauptzeugämter
201 - 275 SS-Junkerschule Tölz
401 - 446 SS-Hauptfürsorge- und Versorgungsamt
450 - 500 Kommando der Waffen-SS
501 - 2000 Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler"
2001 - 3500 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Regiment SS-"Deutschland")
4801 - 5300 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Fla.-M.G. - Bataillon)
5301 - 5800 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Panzerjäger-Abteilung)
5801 - 6300 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Aufklärungs-Abteilung)
6301 - 6800 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Nachrichten-Abteilung)
6801 - 7300 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Pionier-Bataillon)
7301 - 8800 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Regiment SS-"Der Führer)
8801 - 9600 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.Artillerie-Regiment)
9601 - 9675 San.Inspektion d. Waffen-SS
9676 - 9700 Kommando der Waffen-SS
9996 - 9999 SS-Standortkommandantur Prag
10000 - 10200 Inspektion Kraftfahrwesen
10201 - 11000 SS-Div. "Reich"
16000 - 16500 Inspektion der Konzentrationslager
20021 - 20100 Hauptamt Haushalt und Bauten
20451 - 20600 Hauptamt Haushalt und Bauten
20801 - 20900 Hauptamt Haushalt und Bauten
20901 - 21000 Ergänzungsamt der Waffen-SS
40621 - 40550 SS-Junkerschule Tölz
40751 - 41000 SS-Junkerschule Braunschweig
46001 - 46500 SS-Div. "Reich"
48001 - 48050 SS-T. Inf.Ers.Btl. I
48051 - 48150 SS-T. Inf.Ers.Btl. II
48151 - 48200 SS-T. Inf.Ers.Btl. III
48201 - 48300 SS-T. Art.Ers.Abt. I und II
48301 - 48350 SS-T. Inf.Gesch.Ers.Kp.
48351 - 48400 SS-T. Panzer-Jäger E.Btl. I
48501 - 48550 SS-T. Pi.Ers.Kp. 1 und 2
48551 - 48650 SS-T. Nachr.Ers.Abt. Oranienburg
48651 - 48750 SS-T. Nachr.Ers.Abt. Nürnberg
48801 - 48900 SS-T. Ers.Btl. (A)
48901 - 49000 SS-T. Wachbataillon Prag
49501 - 49550 SS-Hauptfürsorge- und Versorgungsamt
49701 - 49900 Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler"
50001 - 70000 SS-Totenkopf-Division
70001 - 70500 Ers.Btl. SS-"Adolf Hitler"
70501 - 70700 SS-Panzer-Späh Ers. Kp.
70701 - 71700 SS-Art.Ers.Rgt.
71701 - 71800 SS-Sanitäts Ers. Btl.
71801 - 72300 Ers.Btl.SS-"Deutschland"
72301 - 72500 SS-Panzer-Jäger Ers. Abt.
72501 - 73000 Ers.Btl. SS-"Germania"
73101 - 73600 Ers.Btl. SS-"Der Führer"
73601 - 73800 SS-Pionier Ers. Btl.
73801 - 74300 SS-Kradshützen E.Btl.
74301 - 74500 SS-Panzer-Jäger Ers.Abt.
74501 - 74700 SS-Fla.MG.Ers.Kp.
74701 - 74900 SS-Nachr.Ers.Abt.
75951 - 75980 SS-Hauptamt SS-Gericht
76000 - 76019 SS-Hauptamt SS-Gericht
76020 - 76023 SS-Standortkommandantur Prag
76066 - 76200 SS-Kriegberichter-Kp.
76201 - 76250 SS-Truppenübungsplatz Debica
76251 - 76280 SS-Wachbataillon "Böhmen-Mähren"
76381 - 76600 San.Inspektion d. Waffen-SS
76651 - 76675 SS-Standortkommandantur Prag
76676 - 76970 Hauptamt Haushalt und Bauten
76980 - 76999 SS-Gruppenführerlehrgang Radolfzell
77000 - 78000 IV./L.SS-"Adolf Hitler"
78001 - 78500 SS-Kraftfahr Ers.Abt.
78501 - 80000 Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler"
80001 - 81000 SS-Polizei-Division
81001 - 82000 4. SS-T. Standarte
82001 - 83000 5. SS-T. Standarte
83001 - 84000 8. SS-T. Standarte
85001 - 86000 10. SS-T. Standarte
86001 - 87000 SS-Div. "Reich" (f.SS-Regiment 11)
87001 - 88000 14. SS-T. Standarte
89001 - 90000 SS-T.Reiterstandarte
90001 - 93000 SS-Div. "Reich"
94501 - 94600 Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler"
94601 - 94700 Kommando der Waffen-SS
96201 - 96300 SS-Unterführerschule Lauenburg
96301 - 96400 SS-Zentralzeugamt f. SS-Hauptzeugämter
96401 - 96500 1. SS-Art. Messbatterie
96801 - 96900 5. SS-Art. Messbatterie
97001 - 99999 Befehlshaber der Waffen-SS in Norwegen
102001 - 112000 SS-Division "Wiking"
112001 - 112500 Ers.Btl. SS-"Westland"
112501 - 113000 Ers. Btl. SS-"Nordland
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Re: Is this a KC-holder of the Waffen-SS ?

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Post by Charles Trang » 27 May 2015, 18:33

Totenkopf's early license plates ranked from 50 000 to 70 000 but this vehicle (probably from a 1943 or 1944 picture) has the license plate number 500 857 ! (6 numbers instead of 5). He looks like SS-Staf. Heinrich Petersen to me.

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Post by Hardigan » 27 May 2015, 22:38

Yes I agree, it's indeed Heinrich Petersen.

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 28 May 2015, 11:53

Good ID, Charles! The two neck decorations (KC & OoKZC) were visible from the start and it really puzzled me who it might be, especially because the face looked so familiar. Thank you.
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What is the source of the photo, please?

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Post by Georges JEROME » 28 May 2015, 15:03

I can't find when Totenkopf division was in Bohemia Moravia. (unless I missidentify uniform and country where pic was taken).

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 28 May 2015, 15:29

Hi, Georges

It's obviously the HW division (Petersen Kdr. SS-Pz.Gr.Rgt. 39), not TK.

The country is indeed Czechoslovakia and the town is Banská Bystrica https://itchyfeetonthecheap.files.wordp ... strica.jpg in which the Slovak National Uprising took place (in which the HW division participated) in September and October 1944.

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Post by Waffen-SS » 28 May 2015, 16:05

Thanks to all for the answers!

This is the source:

http://histomil.com/search.php?keywords ... sf=msgonly

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 28 May 2015, 16:10

Ah, next time please copy the caption as well, it would have saved us a lot of time!

From your source, caption 1 (for the photo from the same session): President Dr. Jozef Tiso awarding men of the Waffen SS for putting down the Slovak uprising in the foreground, soldiers of the 5th Field Company of the Hlinka Guard in the background. Banská Bystrica, Slovakia 1944.

Caption 2 (for the photo you posted): Soldiers of the Waffen SS and the 5th Field Company of the Hlinka Guard in Banská Bystrica.

For fun, comparison with a modern photo of the same place.
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Post by Waffen-SS » 28 May 2015, 16:20

Ah, next time please copy the caption as well, it would have saved us a lot of time!
Sorry, i´ll think about that next time!

Thank you very much for your informations!

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