SS-Pz.Rgt. 1, Group photo, Kharkov March 1943

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SS-Pz.Rgt. 1, Group photo, Kharkov March 1943

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Post by stoveb » 10 Aug 2015, 06:24

Hi there,

Apologies if this has been posted before, if so please point me to the correct thread.

I can obviously see Max Wünsche on the left and Georg Schönberger out in front, but can anyone recognise the other (Kompanie commanders?) in the photo ? Is Nüske in there as 9th Kompanie commander?

Thanks for any help. Photo from Wiki-commons.

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Post by stoveb » 10 Aug 2015, 10:36

Hi, had a suggestion from Seaburn that third from the left is Wünsche's adjutant Georg Isecke, which looks right to me... Any other thoughts?

Martin Groß between Wünsche and Isecke??
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Post by Simon V. » 10 Aug 2015, 20:03

Not sure, but 4th from the left Heinz von Westernhagen, while he was still with LAH's Stug-Abteilung? Think there's a better copy in "Platz der Leibstandarte" but don't have it at hand right now.

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Post by gunter83 » 10 Aug 2015, 20:24

Simon V. wrote:Not sure, but 4th from the left Heinz von Westernhagen, while he was still with LAH's Stug Abteilung? Think there's a better copy in Platz der Leibstandarte but don't have it at hand right now.
I have this book, but there are no this photo. There are some other pics from the same award ceremony but without unknown officers on this pic. Only Max Wünsche, Georg Schönberger and soldiers which received medals.
I'm also think it could be Martin Groß between Wünsche and Schönberger.

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Post by stoveb » 12 Aug 2015, 05:14

Hi guys,

Thanks for your replies, I think the best we can do with this low-res version is:

front: Georg Schönberger
Back, l-r: Max Wünsche, Martin Groß, Georg Isecke, Heinz von Westernhagen, ?, ?, ?, ?

Other photos in the series show men of the Stug and/or Panzerjäger Abt receiving awards too, so Westernhagen seems probable.

Any known Panzer Regiment Officers that received head wounds in the Kharkov conflict?

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Post by Pena V » 13 Aug 2015, 20:57

How about these 2 Company commanders?
Ostuf Beck Wilhelm, CO of 2./SS-Panzer-Regiment 1 (RK 28 Mar 1943)
Ostuf Astegher Hans, CO of 6./SS-Panzer-Regiment 1 (DKiG 28 Mar 1943)
and maybe also
Hstuf Rettlinger Karl, CO of 3./SS-StuG-Abteilung 1 (EK I 29 Mar 1943 and DKiG 15 Apr 1943)

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Post by seaburn » 13 Aug 2015, 22:13

I was looking at Beck's pic yesterday but couldn't say i thought he was in the line up - have you got a clearer pic yet 'stoveb'? I'm surer now that it is isecke third from left - he's holding a box - presume for the distribution of decorations ?

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Post by DargesFlyKiller » 28 Aug 2015, 12:09

I don't think it's Martin Groß between Wünsche and Isecke, It looks like Ralf Tiemann who was regimental adjutant at that time before falling out with Schönberger.
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Post by eindhoven » 06 Dec 2016, 23:55

I concur on Ralf Tiemann.
I took the liberty to use my copy. The negatives are not in the best of shape. If you drag the image to a new tab you will get the full resolution (Source Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Ludwig-008-35A)
Marz 1943 Schönberger, Wünsche, Tiemann,  Isecke, von Westernhagen andere.jpg
front: Georg Schönberger
Back, l-r: Max Wünsche, Ralf Tiemann, Georg Isecke, Heinz von Westernhagen, and awardees.
Wünsche EKII Verleihung Marz 1943.jpg
You will note those standing left of Heinz von Westernhagen are also in the subsequent frames
Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Ludwig-008-29A,_Russland,_bei_Charkow,_Ordensverleihung copy.jpg
Georg Schönberger, Max Wünsche, and unknown. (Source Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Ludwig-008-29A)

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Post by pim » 07 Dec 2016, 08:17

Karl Rettlinger is the one on the right with G.S and M.W

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