SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by filigranofil » 12 May 2016, 01:45

Hello Klemen,

K.Kocjancic wrote:For Vogt I have "First Detailed Interrogation Report on SS-Stubaf. Vogt Josef Michael", received by HQ Eight Army on 18 July 1945.

Personal details:
Name: Josef Michael Vogt
Rank: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor
Unit: Zentralstelle für das Auslandsbriefprüfwesen Amt IV, RSHA
Party No.: in the series 2650000
SS No.: in the series 430000
Home address: Zierenberg bei Kassel, Haus Laar.
He was interrogated from 22 June to 2 July 1945 in "1 Sub Centre CSDIC Austria"

- born 30. July 1897, Mettmann (Düsseldorf), son of school rector
- in Aug. 1914 volunteered for the Army and gained a rank of Lt.
- Nov. 1918 returned home and went to "Hochschule für Kommunalverwaltung" and then to Münster Univ. (Political Science)
- in 1920 left the Army service, and worked for Landesarbeitsamt Düsseldorf
- in July 1925 joined police; Kriminalkommissar Course, Hochere Polizeischule Berlin-Charlottenburg (Mar - Aug 1927), Dec. 1928 promoted to Kriminalkommissar, worked in Ruhr and Polizeipräsidium Berlin
- in Sept. 1933 worked on establishing Gestapo Amt IIB, then transferred to Stapoleitstelle Düsseldorf (here promoted to Kriminalrat in Oct 35).
- in Jul 36 posted to Stapostelle (Aussendienststelle) Köslin
- in Jan 38 back to Düsseldorf as Sachbearbeiter IIA1 (transformed to RSHA IVA1a)
- Apr 1939 promoted to Kriminaldirektor
- Aug 42 became KdS Veldes
- Mar 43 became KdS Marburg
- after altercation with Rösener in May 1944, transfered to Zentralstelle für das Auslandsbriefprüfwesen Amt IV, RSHA
- Sept. 44 promoted to SS-Stubaf.
- in March 45 whole department was sent to Bad Blackenburg (Thuringia)



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Klemen
It is impossible, that Vogt was promoted after living Marburg a.d. Drau to Zentralstelle für das Auslandsbriefprüfwesen Amt IV, RSHA.

I suppose, that Vogt lost his memory...


When he got possibility to enter in SS in the Year 1939/1940, he got also very good job (Chief of Referat:RSHA IV A1 „Kommunismus, Marxismus, Einheitsfront, illegale Propaganda“and...SS-Stubaf.
So, he was SS-Sturmbannführer from 01.09.39.
For sure he was SS-Stubaf. when he came to Veldes/Bled, Slovenia. He was there allready on 08.07.42 or before.

Source: http://www.gedenkbuch-wuppertal.de/de/v ... t%C3%A4ter


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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 12 May 2016, 07:27

I think he tried to sanitize his resume, when facing interrogators.


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Post by filigranofil » 12 May 2016, 23:02

One source, which prove, that Vogt got SS-Stubaf. before 14. October 1942

Dr. Tone Ferenc: Quellen zur Nationalsozialistischen entnationalisierungspolitik in slowenien 1941-1945

now on-line: Dokument 269
http://www.karawankengrenze.at/ferenc/i ... how&id=269

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by George_W » 12 May 2016, 23:12

Josef Vogt was promoted SS-Stubaf on 01/08/1939, with RSHA, born 30/07/1897, SS No 337 817.
source: 1944 DAL from 01/10/1944, page 43.

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Post by filigranofil » 12 May 2016, 23:29

Photo of Vogt in front of Military court in Ljubljana, Slovenia

On the first day: 10.July 1947

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Vogt is second from left.

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Post by filigranofil » 16 May 2016, 09:47

Hello,

Document about Vogt in Veldes/Bled, Slovenia...

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by filigranofil » 21 May 2016, 23:51

Hello,

Vogt was volunteered for the Army (Infantery) and gained a rank of Lt. d. Res on 21.12.1916.
He served Army from 23.9.1914 till 30.1.1920 and was 4 times wunded.
Ehrenabzeichen: EK. I, EK.II, silver Verwundetenabzeichen.

Entry in Police on 1.10.1925.
On 1.2.1929 he got promotion to Kriminalkommisar
On 1.7.1933 he join to Geheim Staatspolizeiamt Berlin (Gestapo): struggle with ilegal comunismus
He was promoted to Kriminalrat on 1.10.1935.

On 6.2.1939 he requested to SS (SD), but on 22.4.1939 look reception very bad: his body was deficiency to compare to Aryan race.

Vogts signature...

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by George_W » 22 May 2016, 11:46

K.Kocjancic wrote:Laudorf
SS-Hstuf. & Kriminalkommissar
Stapoleitstelle Hamburg
with BdS Niederlande (40 - 43)
Leiter Abt IV, KdS Marburg (43 - )
Age about 42
About 1,75 m tall, thin, round face, dark hair and eyes
Address: Maribor
In addition to Laudorf, testimony of Weckerlein:

Laudorf, SS-Hstuf. KK. Career Kripo and Gestapo official from Hamburg. Was chief of Abteilung IV (Gestapo) in KdS Maribor from summer 1943 until March 1945. Was considered "correct" and "soft" by his colleagues. Age: 45; Height: 1,72; Build: stocky, short-legged; Hair: light-brown; Face: broad, angular; Mouth: small.

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Post by filigranofil » 25 May 2016, 01:33

Hallo,

Vogt was still on 2nd May 1944 present at "Stabsbesprechungen" in Marburg a.Drau/Maribor...

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by Waldbruder » 14 Aug 2016, 11:46

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I am searching for all kind of information (men,anti partisan action,etc.) about Pettau(Ptuj) branch from KdS Marburg/Drau(Maribor) 1941-1944

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by Puck » 11 Aug 2017, 00:54

K.Kocjancic wrote:Otto Baumann
SS-Oschaf.
Stapoleitstelle Karlsruhe
KdS Veldes
driver, KdS Marburg (43 - beg 44)
Stapostelle Kiel (beg 44 - )
Age about 37, married, three children
About 1,7 m tall, emanciated figure, round wrinkled face, fair hair, brown eyes
17.08.1908 born in Stuttgart

1939..1941 member KdS Radom/Stapo Berlin
1941 member Sonderkommando 7a/EGr B
07.1942 Stapo Karlsruhe
1943..1944 member Kds Bled and KdS Maribor
02.1944 Stapo Kiel
04.1944 AEL-Nordmark
10.1944-04.1945 deputy AEL-Nordmark

09.12.1947 tried in Kiel-Hassee-case no.1 (AEL Nordmark), sentenced to death
08.06.1948 executed in Hameln

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by Georg_S » 15 Sep 2018, 20:21

Peter wrote:
11 May 2016, 12:34
K.Kocjancic wrote:Glittenburg
SS-Hstuf.
SD Leitabschnitt Düsseldorf
Sachbearbeiter in Abt. III, KdS Zagreb (May 43 - )
Age about 39, married
About 1,7 m tall, thin, round face, dark hair, brown eyes
Address: Gastein

Ernst Glittenburg (DAL records as Glittenberg)
born 28 Dec 1912 in Neuss
SS # 38 208
NSDAP # 1 036 800
Promoted SS-Ustuf on 30 Jan 1938
Promoted SS-Ostuf on 20 Apr 1939
Promoted SS-Hstuf on 20 Apr 1940
Here is a photo of mentioned SS-Officer from the DRK
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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by AliasDavid » 15 Sep 2018, 21:26

filigranofil wrote:
16 May 2016, 09:47
Hello,

Document about Vogt in Veldes/Bled, Slovenia...
According to that document Vogt had been promoted from Kriminaldirektor to Regierungs- und Kriminalrat.

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Post by steve248 » 16 Sep 2018, 09:28

Promotion to RuKR of J M Vogt listed in BBL 31/41 (when Abt.Leiter, RSHA IV A1)

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Re: SS-Stubaf. & Kriminaldirektor Josef Michael Vogt

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Post by Puck » 24 Apr 2020, 21:23

K.Kocjancic wrote:
11 May 2016, 09:16
Franz Geschke
SS-Hstuf. & Hptm. d. Pol.
ADC to BdO Veldes
ADC to Rösener (? - spring 43)
ADC to Belleville, who was Stabsoffizier der Schupo at the Reichstatthalterei Steiermark (spring 43 - )
Age about 49, married
About 1,75 m tall, corpulent, nearly bald, red face, blue eyes, large nose
Franz Geschke was promoted to Hptm.d.SchP. in Nov.1943 (from Rev.Hptm.d.SchP.) with RDA 1.12.1943
after visiting 1.Offiziersanwärter-Lehrgang für Rev.-(Bez.-)Offiziere in Oranienburg
and on 1.12.1943 transferred from PV Klagenfurt to PV Maribor

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