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SS-Obergruppenführer Demelhuber

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Post by WojtekK » 28 Dec 2003, 15:32

Why Demelhuber hadn't Partei-Nummer ??

Is it true that he joined to NSDAP 20.02.1922 and received Partei-Nummer 4 439 ??

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Post by HPL2008 » 28 Dec 2003, 16:30

In "German Cross in Silver Holders of the SS and Police" as well as in "Waffen SS Commanders Vol. I", Mark Yerger mentions that Demelhuber joined the NSDAP on 20 February 1922 as member no. 4933 but left the party after the Munich Putsch and never rejoined. (Which would explain the lack of an NSDAP membership no. in the SS-Dienstaltersliste of 9 Nov. 44)


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Post by WojtekK » 28 Dec 2003, 16:56

Thanks

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 24 Feb 2006, 22:16

I did not want to open a new thread so am I am highjacking this one :D

I am puzzling around with Demelhuber , his XVI.SS-Korps and "Gruppe Ax" in Pomorania in February 1945 .

According to Hans Jürgen Pantenius Demelhubers Korpsstab was replaced by GenKdo. XVIII.GebKps between 10th and 20th of February . But in the OoB of GenKdo. XVIII.GebKps appears a "Gruppe Ax" ( which must have to do with him : http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... -Adolf.htm ) .

So my question would be out of waht this "Gruppe Ax" was formed and what has been the further fate of Demelhubers Korpsstab .

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Post by Phil Nix » 26 Feb 2006, 13:48

XVI SS Armeekorps was ordered 15.1.1945 to be formed from Führungsstab Ostküste which was commanded by Karl Maria Demelhuber It is not certain that the corps was actuated and it had gone by Feb 1945 Grupe Ax would refer to a battle group commanded by SS Of Adolf Ax who was also Chef des Stabes Führungstabe Ostkurst to 26.1.1945
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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 26 Feb 2006, 13:58

Thanks , Phil !

It seems that this staff vanished in February 1945 , I have not found any trace of it after this time period . In the end of February even the "Gruppe Ax" vanished , was not mentioned in the OoBs of 2nd Army anymore ...

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Post by Phil Nix » 26 Feb 2006, 14:08

Jan-Hendrik wrote:Thanks , Phil !

It seems that this staff vanished in February 1945 , I have not found any trace of it after this time period . In the end of February even the "Gruppe Ax" vanished , was not mentioned in the OoBs of 2nd Army anymore ...
From January 1945 Adolf Ax was transferred to the 15 Waffen Grenadier Div (Lettische) as commander
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Post by Max Williams » 26 Feb 2006, 16:08

Love the bottom name on the board!

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Post by Marc Rikmenspoel » 26 Feb 2006, 21:07

My understanding is that the XVI. SS-Armeekorps HQ was formed specifically to cope with the situation in Pomerania in late January 1945. Demelhuber's Ostküste staff was in the area, and perfect for being converted into an emergency corps HQ to control whatever forces could be rounded up in a hurry. These amounted to the still-refitting Latvian 15. WGD (which had been refitting in West Prussia), the combat-ready portion of the French 33. WGD Charlemagne (still a brigade until February 10), the reformed SS-FPGR 48 General Seyffardt, and the battalion-sized NCO Training Course of the III.(germ.) SS-Panzerkorps (aka KG Hämel).

These forces helped Heer elements slow the Soviet advance east of Stettin, until forces could be transferred in from other fronts for the Sonnenwende offensive in mid-February. After completing this assignment, this ad-hoc corps was no longer needed, with the sub-units being reassigned to better-organized existing formations.

The 15. WGD was commanded by Herbert von Obwurzer since the summer of 1944. He was captured during the division's first actions in Pomerania on January 26, 1945. Adolf Ax was Demelhuber's long-time chief of staff at the post of Befehlshaber der Waffen-SS for the Netherlands, and followed him to the Ostküste assignment, then becoming Chef des Stabes of the XVI. SS-Armeekorps. He held Oberführer rank, and thus was seen as a suitable substitute divisional leader for the 15. WGD until a more experienced man could take over (Ax's actual command experience in the field only went as high as battalion level). Dr. Eduard Deisenhöfer was assigned to take over the division, was was killed in Pomerania trying to locate it. Finally, Karl Burk arrived to and took command from February 15 till the end of the war. Ax then departed to take a division commander's course, so that he would be more fully prepared for a future assignment. I would imagine that "Gruppe Ax" would be a reference to the 15. WGD, or to a portion he led in a particulr assignment between January 26 and February 15, 1945.

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 26 Feb 2006, 21:12

Thanks , dear Mark !

Could anybody confirm if Maj.Ludwig Klöckner was part of this Korpsstab ??

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Post by Phil Nix » 27 Feb 2006, 12:31

Thanks Marc for the fuller explanation
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Post by Ingo » 22 Jul 2010, 15:22

Can anybody help me with the date for his EK I 1939 ?

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