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SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Traub

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SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Traub

Postby Mikedc on 11 May 2004 15:52

Can somebody help me with some more info about this officer??? I only know he was Gebietskommandeur at Novogroedok. I couldn't find any more info through the search-engine on the Axis-forum and also on Google I only find info that I already had.

So a short bio on his career(before and during WW II), a date of birth and info on what happened to him after the war would be much appreciated.

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Postby mulisch on 11 May 2004 19:38

Here is some more information about Traub, according to the DAL 1938.

SS-Untersturmführer Wilhelm Traub

Nr.: 12248
NSDAP nr.: 4355116
SS nr.: 290239
Diensstellung: SD-Hauptamt
Geboren: 02-04-1910
Verstorben:
11-09-1938 SS-Untersturmführer

According to the "Gräbernachweis des Volksbundes
Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge e.V." there is a Wilhelm Rudolf Traub, wich i think could be the same, but he was a Oberleutnant.

Nachname: Traub
Vorname: Wilhelm Rudolf
Dienstgrad: Oberleutnant
Geburtsdatum: 02.04.1910
Geburtsort: Buock
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 18.02.1946
Todesort: Laz. Novi Vrbas-Backa/ Jugosl.

I hope this give you more information.

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Postby Jérôme on 12 May 2004 15:57

mulisch wrote:Here is some more information about Traub, according to the DAL 1938.

SS-Untersturmführer Wilhelm Traub

Nr.: 12248
NSDAP nr.: 4355116
SS nr.: 290239
Diensstellung: SD-Hauptamt
Geboren: 02-04-1910
Verstorben:
11-09-1938 SS-Untersturmführer

According to the "Gräbernachweis des Volksbundes
Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge e.V." there is a Wilhelm Rudolf Traub, wich i think could be the same, but he was a Oberleutnant.

Nachname: Traub
Vorname: Wilhelm Rudolf
Dienstgrad: Oberleutnant
Geburtsdatum: 02.04.1910
Geburtsort: Buock
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 18.02.1946
Todesort: Laz. Novi Vrbas-Backa/ Jugosl.

I hope this give you more information.

Mulisch


Hi,
TRAUB,Wilhelm was
Ostuf 30/01/39
Hstuf ?
Stubaf 01/09/41
Ostubaf 21/06/43
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Postby Peter on 12 May 2004 17:49

I believe that you will find that it is the same man, was he a reserve officer with the Heer.

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Postby mulisch on 12 May 2004 18:28

In the book "Allgemeine SS" from Mark C. Yeger is stated that he was SS und Polizeigebietskommandeur "Quarnero" from October 27, 144 till 1945 as a SS-Obersturmbannführer.

The question is indeed was he a reserve Oberleutnant in the army (heer) ??

Maybe we are talking about two different people here with the same familyname and date of birth ??

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Postby Jérôme on 12 May 2004 18:44

mulisch wrote:In the book "Allgemeine SS" from Mark C. Yeger is stated that he was SS und Polizeigebietskommandeur "Quarnero" from October 27, 144 till 1945 as a SS-Obersturmbannführer.

The question is indeed was he a reserve Oberleutnant in the army (heer) ??

Maybe we are talking about two different people here with the same familyname and date of birth ??

Mulisch


In DAL Oct 43,
TRAUB, Wilhelm is born 02/04/1910 but no mention he was reserve officer in army.
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Postby Peter on 12 May 2004 19:03

I have just checked my old paper files and there is a note made at the Wiener Library in London in 1978 and it says that he was "Executed - Yugoslavia - 1946 ref.Cardex".

The ref.Cardex was probably referring to the thousands of index cards which they had on SS officers.

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Postby Mikedc on 13 May 2004 00:20

Thank you all for your help, much and much appreciated. This is great info and with this my research on this man can be completed as far as I can see.

So thanks Iltis, Rouille and Mulisch.
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Postby mulisch on 13 May 2004 06:18

My research is not over yet, because there is still one question. If this is the same guy (and i think so) why is he burried as a Oberleutnant in the army (heer). According to the DAL Oct. 1943 (info Jérôme), there is not stated that he was a reserve officer in army. Perhaps there is more info in the DAL 1944 ??

The second question is is there more info about his trial ???

Thanks in advance,

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Postby Phil Nix on 13 May 2004 09:41

mulisch wrote:My research is not over yet, because there is still one question. If this is the same guy (and i think so) why is he burried as a Oberleutnant in the army (heer). According to the DAL Oct. 1943 (info Jérôme), there is not stated that he was a reserve officer in army. Perhaps there is more info in the DAL 1944 ??

The second question is is there more info about his trial ???

Thanks in advance,

Mulisch

I think the buriel notice refers to the rank of Oberleutnant could be a mistake and it should be Oberstleutnant which is the same as SS Obersturmbannführer. A number of burials do not show SS ranks but they convert them to military ranks. Maximilian von Herff's grave in Staffordshire Englanf shows his ran as General no mention of any SS rank
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Postby Peter on 13 May 2004 16:43

Good point Phil

there are 2 other SS officers (at least) buried in the UK and their ranks are given as OBLT.

One is a 12th SS Ostuf (ex LSSAH Feldgenarmerie) and the other was also an Ostuf.

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Postby mulisch on 13 May 2004 18:33

I thank you both for the information and think you're right. Pete do you have some more information about his execution or perhaps his trial ??

Thanks in advance,

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Postby Mikedc on 13 May 2004 20:09

If Pete can share this info about his trial that would be great, for sure. So thank you all for starting this conversation, you all make a good point here.

And info about the other two officers Pete is refering too is also welcome, I wonder who they might be.

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Postby Peter on 14 May 2004 09:07

Guys
if I had any more details I would be pleased to give them. I was very hungry for new information back then and I just copied down everything I could find. What I have put above must be all the information that was there, if there had been details of a trial you can bet I would have written them down. From memory a lot of the cards had bits of newspaper cuttings and photos stuck to them, in all languages, some were typed and some were hand written, some had just one line of information and some men had many cards filled out.

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Postby mulisch on 15 May 2004 06:42

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the information !!!!!

I have still one question. The cards you are refering to, do you know if they are still at the Wiener Library in London ????

If so, do you have the adress of the Wiener Library.

Thanks in Advance,

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