Some details about Night of the Long Knives

[Max Williams]

Kempka did not succeed Schreck as Hitler's chauffeur until 1936. However, he was on Hitler's staff from 1932 so it is entirely possible that he was at Bad Wiessee. The correct name of the hotel was Pension Hanselbauer.
Max.

[Helly Angel]

Yes, he was in the staff since March 1, 1932 under the orders of Julius Schreck. But he was not the driver of Hitler that day, by the way Hitler and company were in three cars, maybe Kempka was the drivers of the others two cars.

Schreck was the driver of Hitler in the zone North and West of the Country and Kempka in the others zones.

Helly

[Helly Angel]

At the 17.00 hrs from June 30, 1934 Martin Bormann gave a paper with a list to Sepp Dietrich with the first names to execute by "felony and betray to the Fatherland" to the SA leaders in prison in Stadelheim.

These men were the first to be executed:

August Schneidhuber, Obergruppenführer SA and chief of the Police in Munich (Cell 504)

Wilhelm Schmid, Gruppenführer SA in Munich (Cell 407)

Hans Peter von Heydebreck, Gruppenführer SA in Stettin (Cell 502)

Hans Hayn, Gruppenführer SA in Dresde (Cell 503)

Count Hans Joachim von Spretti-Weilbach, Standartenführer SA in Munich (Cell 501) and

Edmund Heines, Obergruppenführer SA, Director from the Police in Breslau. (Cell 483)

Helly

[mty]

Apparently many of the executed hold notable positions in German police. Did any one of those police commanders ordered or tried to order their police forces (I guess the police departments at that time were still mainly municipal, not under Himmler's empire) to resist the arrest?

[ihoyos]

Hy Helli
About EDMUND HEINES, all my sources point he has shot in the Hotel. He never reach the cell 483 .
He was found in bed with another man for Hitler, and Hitler ordered them shot inmediately.

[Helly Angel]

Dear Compatriota,

I hear the same thing,that he was killed in the bedroom with his lover.

In the majority of the books this is version. It will be interesting to know that!

Best,

Helly

[mty]

Did Hitler himself shot Heines or was it Schreck (or someone else from his staff)? I remember that I have read from some source that it could have been a member of SA feldgendarmerie who was with them.

[Helly Angel]

Accord several sources was the driver of Heines the person with him in the bed, but Hitler wasn´t who shot again them. Hitler never killed someone directly since 1918.

[szuwar]

Dear researchers,
Does anyone know what became of Pension Hanselbauer? Does it still exist?
I searched this forum, Bad Wiesse's web site, internet and have been unable to find out anything about this location past 1934.

[jv]

In a Spiegel series (Mordsache Röhm 1984) Heinz Höhne describes Röhm's execution (with some journalistic licence no doubt) as follows: On 1 July at 3pm Eicke, Lippert and a third SS-officer (does anyone know who this third man was?) gained access (after some intense discussion with prison director Koch) to cell 474 where Röhm was held. Eicke gave Röhm a pistol and told him that he had ten minutes, then everything had to over and done with. After fifteen minutes the three men went back into the cell as nothing had happened. According to Höhne, Lippert took aim and fired two shots (Eicke: "Aim slowly and calmly"). Röhm was still breathing heavily. Höhne does not identify however the officer who gave Röhm the final shot in the chest. Röhm died at 6pm. jv

[jv]

Further to the previous posting I thought there might be an interest in these images: Cell 474 where Röhm was executed. jv
(source: Historia)

[Max Williams]

Dear researchers,
Does anyone know what became of Pension Hanselbauer? Does it still exist?
I searched this forum, Bad Wiesse's web site, internet and have been unable to find out anything about this location past 1934.

It still exists as a hotel, but with a different name (it escapes me at the moment).
Max.

[Max Williams]

In a Spiegel series (Mordsache Röhm 1984) Heinz Höhne describes Röhm's execution (with some journalistic licence no doubt) as follows: On 1 July at 3pm Eicke, Lippert and a third SS-officer (does anyone know who this third man was?) gained access.... jv

Ernst-Heinrich Schmauser.
Max.

[mty]

Re-awaking an age-old thread.

Many contributors seem to have mentioned that there were policemen accompanying Hitler's entourage. I began to think, who they might have been. Back in summer 1934, there wasn't yet RSD but a Führerschutzkommando formed under Himmler's authority as a chief of Bavarian political police and commanded by Rattenhuber. By 1934 they were already authorised to operate in practice throughout the Reich. Is Rattenhuber and his key men (such as Högl) ever mentioned in connection with Bad Wiessee?

[Makarov]

Can anyone give me a update on hotel Lederer (former Hanselbauer)? Is it open/closed? Future plans?