Hans Nockemann

[HM]

Hi,

Some questions.

Can anyone tell me when he was Leiter der Staatspolizeistelle Koblenz?.

Regierungsrat 00.07.1934?.

HM.

[Phil Nix]

Leiter Stapo Koblenz 1.11.35 -1936 Succeeding RR Apel
Phil Nix

[Ponomarenko]

Know anyone, in what detachment of SS-Division "Reich" served Hans Nockemann as ustuf. during 1941?

[Ponomarenko]

Quote:
"Know anyone, in what detachment of SS-division "Reich" served Hans Nockemann as SS-Ustuf. during 1941?"

Nobody?

[freddiefro]

In August of 1941, SS-Untersturmführer Dr. Hans Nockemann was OO,III. Bataillon/SS-Infanterie-Regiment "Der Führer." He was killed in action on 19.12.1941 in Moshaisk. (Source: John P. Moore's "Führerliste der Waffen-SS)

-Fred

[Cartaphilus]

Where can I find a photo of Hans Nockemann?

Thank you.

[Andrey]

Where can I find a photo of Hans Nockemann?

Thank you.

See please:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... =Nockemann
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... =nockemann

Andrey.

[steve248]

In the first days of June 1941 SS-Staf Dr Hans Nockemann was already nominated as Chief - EInsatzgruppe A - and attended a meeting of Army AO IC in Zossen on 6 June 1941.
Within days Nockemann had been replaced as Chief - Einsatzgruppe A by Stahlecker.

The reason given for this is that Nockemann was suffering from the effects of a vehicle accident where his wife and driver were killed.

Anyone have details of that accident and source for it? Thanks

[Vincent91a]

Hello,

Can you read french?

The accident is in part evocated here: Nockemann was held responsible and it had conséquences for his career But it is very hard to find some détails about this event. It is a little evocated in :
C ingrao tesis 2001

https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-03101839
==> page 401
Short portrait of his wife.


I'm currently trying to build an article in Wikipedia("Hans Nockemann") in french for this character but I was told my sources were not focused only on this character so it can't be published.
Do you have sources (references) for this article by chance ?


Why are you interested in this character?
For me it was just to investigate a little to produce a Wikipedia article.

Here an other source but in german: https://books.google.fr/books?id=9Cz1Dw ... nn&f=false
Michael Wildt, Generation des Unbedingten: Das Führungskorps des Reichssicherheitshauptamtes, Hamburger Edition HIS, 11 juin 2013 (ISBN 978-3-86854-573-9, lire en ligne)

Le dernier critère, celui de la responsabilité, est illustré par le destin de Hans Nockemann. Ce juriste, dignitaire de la Gestapo nommé à la tête de l’Amt II du RSHA était destiné au commandement de l’Einsatzgruppe A, qui devait prendre en charge la partie nord du Front de l’Est le 22 juin 1941. Nockemann était marié avec une intellectuelle nazie, une femme faisant contraste avec les discrètes épouses d’officiers SS par la modernité de sa tenue, ses cheveux coupés courts et son doctorat en histoire de l’Art. Le couple n’avait pas encore eu d’enfants. Les photos de son dossier au RuSHA les montrent ensemble lors d’un voyage de fiançailles en Italie, couple d’amoureux que rien ne semblait différencier de milliers d’autres, malgré la fonction de l’homme à la Gestapo, et le militantisme
nazi de la jeune femme auprès du DAF. Le 4 juin 1941, alors même qu’il est en
pleine préparation de l’action des groupes mobiles de tuerie, Hans Nockemann a
un accident de voiture, duquel il sort indemne. Sa femme, elle, est tuée dans le
choc. Quelques jours plus tard, la sanction tombe : ayant sans doute été imprudent,
étant responsable de la mort de sa femme, Nockemann perd la confiance de
Himmler. Celui-ci ordonne sa mutation dans une unité combattante de la SS et
l’assortit d’une rétrogradation au rang d’officier subalterne. Deux raisons
peuvent être évoquées à cette sanction inhabituellement rigoureuse. Nockemann, conscient du fait qu’il était en charge d’une « mission de police de sécurité » d’un
intérêt capital pour la SS, avait par son accident commis une faute grave. En second lieu, l’accident a donné lieu à l’ouverture d’une enquête pénale pour
infraction au code de la route — Nockemann conduisait trop vite — et pour « homicide par négligence », sans que soit précisé si la personne décédée était sa
femme ou d’autres victimes. Dans tous les cas, l’irresponsabilité de son comportement a signifié la fin de sa carrière au RSHA.

[Georges JEROME]

Dr Nockemann was enlisted as SS-Untersturmführer der Reserve der Waffen-SS as a sanction.
Therefore he kept his SS rank in SD and in Police.

Das Schwarze Korps entry :

"19/12/1941 SS-Oberführer und Oberst der Polizei Dr Jur Hans Nockemann Ustuf der Waffen-SS EK II died on front on 19 december 1941 of his wounds from 18/12/1941"

[steve248]

Georges, I do not think Nockemann was enlisted in the Waffen-SS as a "sanction". He could not be enlisted in the same rank as his Allgemeine-SS (SS-Staf.) because he had not the Waffen-SS training for this rank.
There is an exact duplication of this scenario with another RSHA Amtschef - Amtschef VII, SS-Staf. Franz Alfred Six. Between April-June 1941 he was SS-Ustuf d.Waffen-SS with an artillery regiment of "Das Reich".
Many senior SS officers did have a period with the Waffen-SS as junior officers and Unterführer.

[Georges JEROME]

Steve, I agree with you about the rank in regard of his military background. (unfortunatelly I don't have his files).
He kept his police and SS ranks as death add in D.S.K. testify.
as you write it is the tempo which suggested date for enlistment was in relation with the accident.
Perhaps Himmler wanted "to improve" him after that by a frontline experience. not a sanction.
Jungclaus as well Dr Behrends has such appointment in 1944.

[Vincent91a]

Do we have proof that Nockemann was initially destined to join the Einsatzgruppe A? (and then Stahlecker replace him)

[steve248]

It comes from one of Bruno Streckenbach's interrogations in the 1960s and is also mentioned in the Streckenbach Anklageschrift prepared by Staatsanwalt Hamburg. Available at Bundesarchiv Ludwigsburg.
Alternatively, source quoted above in Andrej Angrick, "Besatzungspolitik und Massenmord. Die Einsatzgruppe D in der südlichen Sowjetunion" (Hamburg, 2oo3), several pages.

[Shane A Beaver]

A couple of questions regarding Nockemann
1) Who replaced him as head of Stapostelle "Koln"?
2) Was he replaced by Canaris as head of Stapostelle "Koblenz" in 1936?
3) Is there any truth in the suggestion that he was head of Stapostelle "Dusseldorf" from 1936 to 1938/39? If so, who did he succeed and who replaced him?