Info Amtschefs in Amtsgruppe C WVHA
Info Amtschefs in Amtsgruppe C WVHA
I search info of: (especially dates of when served in the Offices)
Amt C/I SS-Sturmbannführer Sesemann
Amt C/II SS-Sturmbannführer Kiefer
Amt C/III SS-Sturmbannführer Wirtz
Amt C/IV SS-Sturmbannführer Blaschek (S)
Amt C/V SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Lenzer
Amt C/VI SS-Standartenführer Franz Eirenschmalz
Thanks
Boby,
Amt C/I SS-Sturmbannführer Sesemann
Amt C/II SS-Sturmbannführer Kiefer
Amt C/III SS-Sturmbannführer Wirtz
Amt C/IV SS-Sturmbannführer Blaschek (S)
Amt C/V SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Lenzer
Amt C/VI SS-Standartenführer Franz Eirenschmalz
Thanks
Boby,
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First holders of these posts from 1.3.42
Amt CI Gustav Rall succ by Sesemann 1944
Amt CII Max Kiefer
Amt CIII Hans Floto suc by Rudolf Schminke
Amt CIV Dr Wilhelm Schneider suc by Dtr Oswin Flir
Amt CV Wilhelm Noell suc by Wilhelm Lenzer
Amt CVI Franz Eirenschmalz to Autumn 1944 when this office became Amt für Betreibswirtschaft holder unknown
Phil Nix
Amt CI Gustav Rall succ by Sesemann 1944
Amt CII Max Kiefer
Amt CIII Hans Floto suc by Rudolf Schminke
Amt CIV Dr Wilhelm Schneider suc by Dtr Oswin Flir
Amt CV Wilhelm Noell suc by Wilhelm Lenzer
Amt CVI Franz Eirenschmalz to Autumn 1944 when this office became Amt für Betreibswirtschaft holder unknown
Phil Nix
Phil wrote:
Which info is the correct one overhere???
And Eirenschmalz didn't hold his post until May 1945, very interesting fact.
I assume this new Amt was also part of the SS-WVHA???
Greetings,
Mike
But JG wrote:First holders of these posts from 1.3.42
Amt CI Gustav Rall succ by Sesemann 1944
So if we follow Phil Sesemann couldn't be chief in 1942 because he became chief in 1944.Karl Sesemann Chef des Amt C I 3.42 - 7.42
Which info is the correct one overhere???
And Eirenschmalz didn't hold his post until May 1945, very interesting fact.
I assume this new Amt was also part of the SS-WVHA???
Greetings,
Mike
Phil,
I have this info from Walter Naasner SS-Wirtschaft und SS-Verwaltung
SS-WVHA from BArch NS3/555 fol.8 as of 03.03.1942
Amt C I (Allgemeine Baufragen) SS-Stbf.Sesemann
Amt C II (Sonderbauaufgaben) SS-Stbf. Kiefer
Amt C III (Technische Fachgebiete) SS-Stbf. Wirtz
Amt IV (Künstlerische Fachgebiete) SS-Stbf(F) Blaschek
Amt C V (Zentrale Bauinspektion) SS-Stbf. Lenzer
Amt C VI (Bauunterhaltung und Betriebswirtschaft) SS-Staf. Eirenschmalz
SS-Hstf. Sesemann was 1941 Chef der Hauptabteilung II A(Waffen-SS) im Hauptamt
Haushalt und Bauten(Barch NS 3/954, fol.186
HM.
I have this info from Walter Naasner SS-Wirtschaft und SS-Verwaltung
SS-WVHA from BArch NS3/555 fol.8 as of 03.03.1942
Amt C I (Allgemeine Baufragen) SS-Stbf.Sesemann
Amt C II (Sonderbauaufgaben) SS-Stbf. Kiefer
Amt C III (Technische Fachgebiete) SS-Stbf. Wirtz
Amt IV (Künstlerische Fachgebiete) SS-Stbf(F) Blaschek
Amt C V (Zentrale Bauinspektion) SS-Stbf. Lenzer
Amt C VI (Bauunterhaltung und Betriebswirtschaft) SS-Staf. Eirenschmalz
SS-Hstf. Sesemann was 1941 Chef der Hauptabteilung II A(Waffen-SS) im Hauptamt
Haushalt und Bauten(Barch NS 3/954, fol.186
HM.
CIII: SS-Stubaf. Rudolf Schmincke was succeeded by SS-Stubaf. WirtzPhil Nix wrote:First holders of these posts from 1.3.42
Amt CI Gustav Rall succ by Sesemann 1944
Amt CII Max Kiefer
Amt CIII Hans Floto suc by Rudolf Schminke
Amt CIV Dr Wilhelm Schneider suc by Dtr Oswin Flir
Amt CV Wilhelm Noell suc by Wilhelm Lenzer
Amt CVI Franz Eirenschmalz to Autumn 1944 when this office became Amt für Betreibswirtschaft holder unknown
Phil Nix
CIV: Dr. Ing. Oswin Flir was succeeded by SS-Stubaf. Blaschke
CV: must be Werner Noell
Greetings from
Ludger
It's getting complexer with the minute but also very interesting.
Thanks Ludger, for the new info.
And about Floto.
I have Werner Floto being Chef Amt III, not Hans Floto. This name is also posted in another thread that
deals with this subject(can be found by using the search-button on this forum).
Hans Floto is in my files connected to the SS-Reiterstandarten.
Greetings,
Mike
Thanks Ludger, for the new info.
And about Floto.
I have Werner Floto being Chef Amt III, not Hans Floto. This name is also posted in another thread that
deals with this subject(can be found by using the search-button on this forum).
Hans Floto is in my files connected to the SS-Reiterstandarten.
Greetings,
Mike
Werner Floto is correct.Mikedc wrote:It's getting complexer with the minute but also very interesting.
Thanks Ludger, for the new info.
And about Floto.
I have Werner Floto being Chef Amt III, not Hans Floto. This name is also posted in another thread that
deals with this subject(can be found by using the search-button on this forum).
Hans Floto is in my files connected to the SS-Reiterstandarten.
Greetings,
Mike
DAL 01.10.1944 (Nr. 2964):
SS-Stubaf. (Allg.-SS); SS-Stubaf. d.R. (W-SS)
DoB: 30.03.1900
SS-Nr.: 470 564
NSDAP-Nr.: none
01.04.1943 SS-Stubaf. (Allg.-SS)
Greetings from
Ludger
My data comes from "Himmlers Graue Eminez" by Peter Ferdinad KochPhil Nix wrote:HM wrote:Phil,
I have this info from Walter Naasner SS-Wirtschaft und SS-Verwaltung
SS-WVHA from BArch NS3/555 fol.8 as of 03.03.1942
Amt C I (Allgemeine Baufragen) SS-Stbf.Sesemann
Amt C II (Sonderbauaufgaben) SS-Stbf. Kiefer
Amt C III (Technische Fachgebiete) SS-Stbf. Wirtz
Amt IV (Künstlerische Fachgebiete) SS-Stbf(F) Blaschek
Amt C V (Zentrale Bauinspektion) SS-Stbf. Lenzer
Amt C VI (Bauunterhaltung und Betriebswirtschaft) SS-Staf. Eirenschmalz
SS-Hstf. Sesemann was 1941 Chef der Hauptabteilung II A(Waffen-SS) im Hauptamt
Haushalt und Bauten(Barch NS 3/954, fol.186
HM.
Phil Nix
Okay, I tried to make something out of it and if I'm correct, Amtsgruppe C from SS-WVHA
should have looked like this:
Amtsgruppe C: Construction Division.
SS-Gruppenführer Dr. Ing. Hans Kammler(chief, SS-nr. 11113.619).
SS-Obersturmbannführer Prof. Dr. Hans Schleif(deputy-chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Busching(deputy).
Amt C I: General Construction Department.
SS-Obersturmbannführer Gustav Rall(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Karl Sesemann(chief).
SS-Obersturmbannführer Prof. Dr. Hans Schleif(chief, SS-nr. 264.124).
Amt C II: Special Construction Department.
SS-Sturmbannführer Max Kiefer(chief).
Amt C III: Technical Specialists Department.
SS-Sturmbannführer Werner Floto(chief, SS-nr. 470.564).
SS-Sturmbannführer Rudolf Schmincke(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Wirtz(chief).
Amt C IV: Artistic Department.
SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Wilhelm Schneider(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Ing. Oswin Flir(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer(Sonderführer)Blaschke(chief).
Amt C V: Central Construction Inspectorate.
SS-Obersturmbannführer Werner Noell(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Lenzer(chief).
Amt C VI: Construction Maintenance and Internal Operations.
SS-Standartenführer Franz Eirenschmalz(chief, SS-nr. 10.051).
If someone doesn't agree with this, just let us know.
Now I'm looking for the SS-numbers from Karl Sesemann, Gustav Rall, Wilhelm Schneider, Oswin
Flir, Werner Noell, Wilhelm Lenzer, Rudolf Schmincke, Max Kiefer, Blaschke and Wirtz.
I'm also looking for the Christian names from Blaschke and Wirtz.
About Busching there was already made an inquiry and Phil didn't find anything, at least not about a Busching
who was attached to the WVHA.
And if somebody has other info about these men, like their DoB/birthplace, ranks, party-number, etc., hope
you're willing to share it with us.
Greetings,
Mike
should have looked like this:
Amtsgruppe C: Construction Division.
SS-Gruppenführer Dr. Ing. Hans Kammler(chief, SS-nr. 11113.619).
SS-Obersturmbannführer Prof. Dr. Hans Schleif(deputy-chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Busching(deputy).
Amt C I: General Construction Department.
SS-Obersturmbannführer Gustav Rall(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Karl Sesemann(chief).
SS-Obersturmbannführer Prof. Dr. Hans Schleif(chief, SS-nr. 264.124).
Amt C II: Special Construction Department.
SS-Sturmbannführer Max Kiefer(chief).
Amt C III: Technical Specialists Department.
SS-Sturmbannführer Werner Floto(chief, SS-nr. 470.564).
SS-Sturmbannführer Rudolf Schmincke(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Wirtz(chief).
Amt C IV: Artistic Department.
SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Wilhelm Schneider(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Ing. Oswin Flir(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer(Sonderführer)Blaschke(chief).
Amt C V: Central Construction Inspectorate.
SS-Obersturmbannführer Werner Noell(chief).
SS-Sturmbannführer Wilhelm Lenzer(chief).
Amt C VI: Construction Maintenance and Internal Operations.
SS-Standartenführer Franz Eirenschmalz(chief, SS-nr. 10.051).
If someone doesn't agree with this, just let us know.
Now I'm looking for the SS-numbers from Karl Sesemann, Gustav Rall, Wilhelm Schneider, Oswin
Flir, Werner Noell, Wilhelm Lenzer, Rudolf Schmincke, Max Kiefer, Blaschke and Wirtz.
I'm also looking for the Christian names from Blaschke and Wirtz.
About Busching there was already made an inquiry and Phil didn't find anything, at least not about a Busching
who was attached to the WVHA.
And if somebody has other info about these men, like their DoB/birthplace, ranks, party-number, etc., hope
you're willing to share it with us.
Greetings,
Mike
No trace of Blaschke Dr Heinrich Wirtz was not in the SS
From 1938 DAL;
Sesemann 4174788 143242 born 28.12.09
Rall 1097127 50499 born 2.9.83
Schneider 3470810 220276 born 19.9.02
Flir No Party nr 223006 born 4.3.07
Kiefer 4157069 273744 born 15.9.89
From 1944 DAL
Noell 1542432 463095 born 28.9.06 Obsbnf 1.4.43
Lenzer No Party Nr 471922 born 24.12.1897Obsbf 20.4.44
Schmincke Party nr ? 422238 born 26.4.1897 Sbf 9.11.42 Killed 27.3.1944
The last man only appears in W/ss DAL so there is no Party number listed.
Phil Nix
From 1938 DAL;
Sesemann 4174788 143242 born 28.12.09
Rall 1097127 50499 born 2.9.83
Schneider 3470810 220276 born 19.9.02
Flir No Party nr 223006 born 4.3.07
Kiefer 4157069 273744 born 15.9.89
From 1944 DAL
Noell 1542432 463095 born 28.9.06 Obsbnf 1.4.43
Lenzer No Party Nr 471922 born 24.12.1897Obsbf 20.4.44
Schmincke Party nr ? 422238 born 26.4.1897 Sbf 9.11.42 Killed 27.3.1944
The last man only appears in W/ss DAL so there is no Party number listed.
Phil Nix