Eduard Chivu wrote:I'm not sure about this, but i though that most of germany's raw materials came from norway.
No, iron ore came from Sweden. Probably also Norway supplied raw materials to Germany but I don't know any details; at least "heavy water" for making A-bombs!
Eduard Chivu wrote:I was trying to say that it doesn't matter who has the biggest army. It matters what each one achieved.
Right. Finnish Army was both big and achieved very good results.
Eduard Chivu wrote:Finland might of stayed a democracy for several reasons. First of all it was in a different sphere of influence, and second of all Finland did not have as many Russian divisions fighting against them. Most of Army Group South(or the Ukrainian front, i don't know what the russians called it) was coming towards Romania.
IN the battle of Targul Frumos 300 russian tanks were destroyed and 200 were damaged, while the Germans lost 10. I don't think Finland was ever threatened by that many tanks as Romania was. And last but not least, Rumania was being bombared by the Allies, while Finland was not. I forgot, Finland also had the advantage of terrain.
Well, Soviet attack against Finland in June 1944 was one of their major attacks on the eastern front. Alone in Karelian Isthmus Leningrad Front had about 270.000 men, 1660 field guns, 100 super heavy or heavy railway and coastal guns, 660 tanks and assault guns and 1500 aircraft (initially 24 infantry divisions, two artillery divisions, field artillery brigade, five armoured brigades, eight armoured regiments, eight assault gun regiments and assault engineer brigade). Fortunately we had Armoured Division, five Finnish infantry divisions and two brigades in Karelian Isthmus.
Soviet attacks against two Finnish infantry divisions (IV Army Corps: 10.D and 2.D) started on 9.6.1944. Finnish divisions were under heavy artillery barrages of about 100 artillery battalions of which 60 to 70 fired same area at Valkeasaari. On 10.6.1944 during the two hours period over 100 Soviet field artillery and mortar battalions shot about 280.000 shells. Soviets broke Finnish defences on 10.6. at Valkeasaari. It has been said that this was one of biggest artillery concentrations during WW II.
That was maybe a bit bigger battle than you (and many others) seem to think...
Eduard Chivu wrote:But it is useless to keep on arguing, I'll just say that both Finland and Rumania helped equally. Like you said, without Finland's metals there would be no need for oil. So one depends on the other, and vise versa.
I agree. 8)