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Postby Panzergenadier on 25 Sep 2004 11:30

Hello!!! The "History of the Second world war" was written by Soviet historians. If you check in a bigger library may be you will find it. I read it not because "the communism had the decisive role in crushing the Fascist invaders" and others like that. I remove the political commentar and use the military facts. I read it also because western historians do not have detailed information on the actions of the Soviet forces. I also recomend you G.Zhukovs' memmories,I.Konevs' memmories, R.Malinovskys' memories, K.Rokossovskis' memmories and other books by Soviet generals. Also good books are from German generals:Halders', Mansteins' Gederians', Varlimonts', Tippelskirchs' and other. Because information from the source is very useful.

Regards and my best wishes,

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Postby Victor on 25 Sep 2004 12:26

I imagined it was a Soviet work as it seemed to portray things according to the Soviet view, which just like the German one predominant in the West until the 1990s, did not take into account ther other side of the hill.

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Postby Allen Milcic on 26 Sep 2004 15:17

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Postby Panzergenadier on 26 Sep 2004 17:46

O.K.!!! We must be serious people. I just quoted that newspaper to show the madness of the Nazis of our days.

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Postby Daniel S. on 26 Sep 2004 18:37

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Postby Allen Milcic on 27 Sep 2004 02:09

Daniel S. wrote:
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Daniel:

If your truth is hatred of a nation, a race or a group of people, then yes. And if you have a problem with that you are not welcome here. End of discussion.

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Postby Daniel S. on 27 Sep 2004 18:24

I don't hate anyone,I was misunderstood.It was something about Romanian's image in the world which is distorted by some persons and this is just a real fact,not my feeling about those persons.

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Postby Askold on 27 Sep 2004 19:17

In my opinion German allies should be ranked as they were viewed according to German eyes, not actual size.

In German view, they're most important partners were:

1. Italy
2. Hungary
3. Rumania

- As I mentioned before - studying German propaganda of the times, will let you realize who they valued and who was of no importance.

This is offtopic, but needs to be corrected:


As for Bukovina being Russian for a long time, you are grossly mistaking. Bukovina was never part of the Russian Empire and only came under Russian administration (the southern part) in June 1940. Until 1775 it had belonged to the Principality of Moldavia when it was ceded to Austria by the suzeran power, teh Ottoman Empire (although the vassality treaties signed in the 16th century did not give it this right). It remained under the Austrian Crown until 1918, when it was united with Romania. The Soviets justified their claims on Northern Bukovina by the fact that during Austrian rule many Ukrainians were brought there and it wantred to protect its Slavic brothers from the "exploitation of the bloody Bucharest burgeoisie


Victor, you forget the fact that Northern Bukovyna was ETHNICALY Ukrainian land. The Soviets didn't "bring" over any Ukrainians, neither did Austrians. In Early Middle Ages Bukovyna belonged to Grand dukes of Galich (Galicia). Under rule of grank duke Jaroslav Osmomysl many new cities were founded. For example city Galatz was originaly called Malyi Galych (Litle Galych, as compared to Galich the capital of the principality). Because Bukovyna had ethnic Ukrainian population, that was the reason, why it was re-united with Ukraine.

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Postby Victor on 28 Sep 2004 08:10

The discussion on Bukovina has been moved to the Non-WW2&General history forum, here.

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Postby Allen Milcic on 28 Sep 2004 19:01

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