Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 22 Feb 2017, 01:46

Big ditto! Those stones may be already gone .... But keep in mind, that all the original stones on up the driveway, that are covered by the fill dirt (on both sides of the drive), are presumably all still there, preserved for now.

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 22 Feb 2017, 04:21

You know, this thread is probably one of the best preserver of research in this area of the Obersalzberg in existence.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by tunix0 » 22 Feb 2017, 16:01

Hi!

I've another one, from the right side of the driveway.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Mannheim » 22 Feb 2017, 22:50

It's bizarre: I had exactly the same feeling about those stones so I took far too many photos of them, hoping to match them with period photos when I got home. Of course, I have so far not got around to it.
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 22 Feb 2017, 23:20

Mannheim wrote:It's bizarre: I had exactly the same feeling about those stones so I took far too many photos of them, hoping to match them with period photos when I got home. Of course, I have so far not got around to it.
Based on Mannheim's images this is exactly what they look like today (assuming that these are 2016 or 2017 images).
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Mannheim » 23 Feb 2017, 00:16

2015 images, Johnnyrocket, but great match!
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by hsa601 » 23 Feb 2017, 14:40

I think this one matches up pretty well if you look at the rocks in the right bottom corner.
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 23 Feb 2017, 17:45

hsa601 wrote:I think this one matches up pretty well if you look at the rocks in the right bottom corner.

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A good match on these two images.
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 23 Feb 2017, 17:59

Interesting imaging...
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by tunix0 » 24 Feb 2017, 09:31

Haha, nice to see my car in your pics! :D

I had the same idea when i was there in 2013, but not because of the stones. :wink:

Here is a quick comparison pic in front of the destroyed Berghof which I did at that time. The position of the Bormann linden tree can also be seen.

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Post by tunix0 » 24 Feb 2017, 10:00

I found another match in Harry von Gebhardt's Pics. Hitler stands on the right wall of the driveway and the camera looks up to the Türken. Both photos are old, but with them you can see the position of Hitler.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Biber » 24 Feb 2017, 15:57

Is there a similar stone retaining wall by the driveway/path leading to what was the kitchen wing?

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Post by headwest » 24 Feb 2017, 21:01

How about the lower wall down the road? i cant tell for sure but it looks like there are more stones left in it?

wow, you can really see how much the driveway has been filled up to

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Post by headwest » 24 Feb 2017, 21:04

sorry, dont know what happened, i thought page 304 was the last, i posted and found all of page 305! cool stuff

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 25 Feb 2017, 19:59

tunix0 wrote:I found another match in Harry von Gebhardt's Pics. Hitler stands on the right wall of the driveway and the camera looks up to the Türken. Both photos are old, but with them you can see the position of Hitler.
Great match with a period photo, Christian! Thanks!
Biber wrote:Is there a similar stone retaining wall by the driveway/path leading to what was the kitchen wing?
No, only one layer of small border stones (like large cobble stones) running along each side. Like what you can see running up the drive on the Bormann Tree side in the 1945 photo. Some of these you can still see, some have been buried.

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