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Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Mannheim on 29 May 2012 01:58

I am trying to match up a famous photo taken in Berlin in 1945. The photo I am after is taken slightly after the more famous one (see below) and the armoured car can be seen further down the street at the intersection - unless I'm mistaken - of Reinhardtstraße and Friedrichstraße. I have seen the photo on this site but cannot find it again.
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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby nobodyofnote on 29 May 2012 10:47

This is the same Nordland vehicle (339) of Swedish SS-Hauptsturmführer Hans-Gösta Pehrsson, viewed from behind. To the left you can see a brickwork façade, with a sign with the words EIS (?):

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The same vehicle later during the surrender:

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Mannheim on 29 May 2012 22:40

Thanks nobodyofnote. The second one is the one I was looking for. I spent a few days in Berlin last year photographing all the likely spots in Friedrichstraße and Chausseestraße and am still not sure I've got it right.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby nobodyofnote on 29 May 2012 23:11

Mannheim wrote:Thanks nobodyofnote. The second one is the one I was looking for. I spent a few days in Berlin last year photographing all the likely spots in Friedrichstrasse and Chausseestrasse and am still not sure I've got it right.


Lennart Westberg in Die schwedischen Freiwilligen der Waffen-SS lists the address as Friedrichstraße 107.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Mannheim on 30 May 2012 06:19

I'm pretty sure that's as close as I could figure to Friedrichstrasse 107. There is yet another photo somewhere of a bunch of civilians filing past the building on the corner, past a corpse who could well have been a victim of that encounter.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Cor on 30 May 2012 07:56

Both pictures were also in the book battle of berlin then and now, but there wasn't a comparison shot because it was to difficult to find the same angle of the shot, because the whole surroundings are changed nowadays.

But with the confirmation of nobodyofnote you must be pretty close.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby AndréN on 31 May 2012 21:13

This is definitely Friedrichstrasse 107 .
This picture taken prior WW1 helps to recognize the building which was a caserne .
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I positionned as well the destroyed vehicle on this Straube plan .(little rectangle in red colour) .

Hope this helps
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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby history1 on 01 Jun 2012 10:27

nobodyofnote wrote:[...]To the left you can see a brickwork façade, with a sign with the words EIS (?)
[...]

Eis means just "ice".

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Mannheim on 02 Jun 2012 00:14

I think my photographs pretty much match up with where AndreN has indicated his red rectangle. Could anybody currently in Berlin tell me if the area indicated on AndreN's Straube plan, i.e the building beside the red rectangle, is now the Friedrichstadt Palast?

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Red star on 02 Jun 2012 09:54

AndréN wrote:
I positionned as well the destroyed vehicle on this Straube plan .(little rectangle in red colour) .

Photo of seat noted by you.
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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Cor on 02 Jun 2012 10:38

thanks Redstar for posting this picture, i wa looking for this picture to show that this place is another place than the old photos placed in the beginning. And if this is adress 107 pointed out by AndreN than nobodyofnote is wrong.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby nobodyofnote on 02 Jun 2012 11:14

Cor wrote:And if this is adress 107 pointed out by AndreN than nobodyofnote is wrong.


I never said it was 107. Read what I quoted: "Lennart Westberg in Die schwedischen Freiwilligen der Waffen-SS lists the address as Friedrichstraße 107." Westberg said it. I did not.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Red star on 02 Jun 2012 11:25

Cor wrote:thanks Redstar for posting this picture, i wa looking for this picture to show that this place is another place than the old photos placed in the beginning. And if this is adress 107 pointed out by AndreN than nobodyofnote is wrong.

Still a photo street Friedrichstrasse,the train station is in distance visible.
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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Cor on 02 Jun 2012 11:51

nobodyofnote wrote:
Cor wrote:And if this is adress 107 pointed out by AndreN than nobodyofnote is wrong.


I never said it was 107. Read what I quoted: "Lennart Westberg in Die schwedischen Freiwilligen der Waffen-SS lists the address as Friedrichstraße 107." Westberg said it. I did not.



Sorry men i meant that.

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Re: Reinhardtstraße Berlin photo

Postby Vienna on 02 Jun 2012 17:49

Hi!

You see it under Ron Klages Panzers - Then and now photographs - S 7
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=57497&start=90

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For Mannheim: it's not the Friedrichstadtpalast - Adress 107 is correct - but across the Weidendammer Brücke (bridge) on the right side; Nr. 101-102 it's the old and new Admiralspalast (Metropol), Nr. 103 is a Hotel. Wonderful photos you ca see under
http://architekturmuseum.ub.tu-berlin.d ... %2C+Berlin

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