Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

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Post by Paulheald » 08 Sep 2014, 06:11

Thanks Uncle Wolfie I have not seen that one before.
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Post by Paulheald » 10 Sep 2014, 11:54

Hello J. Duncan, please find attached the poster that I was looking for that I think accompanied the stylized map of the Rally Grounds. I cannot find the poster in its original form, hence I can't give a credit. I had to rip it from a homemade video that I put together.

Hello Max, thanks for the pic of "Uncle Foxie". I have to say that his smile is as sincere as any politician's promise! Anyway, much appreciated. :?
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Post by J. Duncan » 11 Sep 2014, 01:45

Thanks Paul...an interesting image...an inviting Hitler with slight smile and forelock. Strangely, an almost (not quite) USA colored flag (red, white, and blue - with stripes) in the background.

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Post by SteveFBS » 11 Sep 2014, 03:18

That last postcard/poster looks like the work of Ludwig Hohlwein, if I'm not mistaken.

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Post by Paulheald » 11 Sep 2014, 08:32

Thanks SteveFBS it certainly looks like his style. It says on the website that Ludwig Hohlwein was indeed a Munich poster artist. I found poster/postcard when I was compiling a video, wherein Munich was the birthplace of the Nazi party, but neighboring Nuremberg was the party showplace. Anyway, many thanks for the information.

Thanks also to you, J. Duncan, for your kind remarks about the map of the Rally Grounds. I wish that I had had that map on my first visit to the Rally Grounds because I was wandering around like a lost sheep in totally the wrong place trying to find the Luitpold Arena.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 11 Sep 2014, 23:47

Yes, that is indeed Hohlwein's work. He did several Party Rally posters in his distinctive style. Here is another example.

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Post by Paulheald » 12 Sep 2014, 09:40

Thanks Geoff - now I know who to credit if I ever post that picture again. My apologies for not doing so originally. Ludwig Hohlwein certainly depicts AH with a very amiable expression on his face. Another point - J.Duncan raises the question of the flag, shown on both these postcards, "Strangely, an almost (not quite) USA colored flag (red, white, and blue - with stripes) in the background." Any, idea as to what it is?

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Post by J. Duncan » 12 Sep 2014, 09:54

Obviously nothing to do with USA... I just noticed it has the same color pattern as the USA flag (blue for where the stars should be -they have a crowned eagle - with red and white stripes)...as an American, the flag's colors stand out to me and seem out of place on a poster with Hitler's image. I am guessing the flag has something to do with the city of Nuremberg?

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Post by Paulheald » 12 Sep 2014, 14:21

Hello Duncan - yes you are completely right it was the flag of the city of Nuremberg. A pic is attached of the 1933 Nuremberg city flag showing the stripes. However, the eagle is different to that shown in the post cards.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 13 Sep 2014, 00:01

The flag in the second poster certainly looks like some sort of attempt to combine the Nürnberg Christkind symbol with an eagle ... odd ... don't believe I ever noticed this before.

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Post by J. Duncan » 13 Sep 2014, 06:39

Symbol (I call it "King Eagle" to myself) says the "monogram" of the city of Nuremberg. Would that be called a "crest" or a "coat of arms"?
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Post by Paulheald » 13 Sep 2014, 10:48

Hello J.Duncan, well done on digging out the Coat of Arms of the City of Nuremberg. I think that the Coat of Arms is the whole shebang as shown in your attached pics, whereas a Crest is part of the Coat of Arms.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 13 Sep 2014, 20:01

I looked it up and learned something. Wikipedia says the design in the posters was/is Nürnberg's "Groβe Wappen" while the design with the half eagle was the "Kleine Wappen." The eagle on the "Grosse Wappen" is supposed to show the head of a king. The red and white stripes on the long banner are probably to represent the Bavarian area of Franken (Franconia).

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Post by Mannheim » 14 Sep 2014, 23:28

Smaller copies of the Hohlwein postcards - and many others - can be found here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Postal-Hist ... B0006EMJYK
The book is quite useful and includes a potted history of the rallies and of course great detail on the postal arrangements, postcards and the like. My 1980 copy has a few niggling things - like the statement that Hess opened the 1936 rally in the congress hall when the authors mean the Luitpoldhalle. Such minor things may well have been addressed in subsequent editions.
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Post by Paulheald » 19 Sep 2014, 09:03

Going back to the sketch map of the Rally Grounds, posted on the previous page, there is an area behind the Marsfeld Arena marked as "Lager". Was this area intended for construction workers or for participants in events like Reichsparteitag? In the film "Triumph of the Will" there are a number of scenarios showing Hitler Youth activities in a camp area - was this in the Lager?

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