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Post by Paulheald » 30 Dec 2013, 15:06

Built by Hitler as part of the Strength Through Joy programme (basically, a kind of National Socialist leisure industry wing - which also brought us the VW Beetle), Prora was a 4.5km long hotel (one continuous structure) in which all the rooms had a sea view, providing accommodation for 20,000 people on the Baltic Sea. It's also known as the "Colossus of Rügen”. Built between 1936 and 1939, it was designed to provide affordable holidays for the average worker, but with the onset of war, construction stopped.

Recently a consortium of Berlin speculators purchased several blocks of the complex with the dream of converting the "Colossus of Rugen" into luxury accommodation. They are hoping, no doubt, that others will follow suit.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 30 Dec 2013, 16:53

Hi Paul,

Some more pics ... under construction --
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How it would have looked --
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"Deutschland Baut" (1938)
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"Deutschland Baut" (1938)

How it looks today --

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/prora.htm


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Post by Steve Hoog » 30 Dec 2013, 16:59

I just watched The Goebbels Experiment DVD and I am 95% it referenced this.

Nice photos and subject!
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Post by Gilesusher » 30 Dec 2013, 18:03

Prora is an interesting side-visit for anyone interested in visiting Peenemünde for a few days. Although beware, whilst Prora is only some 50km from Peenemünde as the crow flies, to get to it from Usedom Island you need to drive onto the German mainland right up to Stralsund and onto Rügen Island in an arc - all in all some 100 minutes from Peenemünde . If visiting Peenemünde stay at the Zur Zwiebel on Peeneplatz - they have framed pictures of V2s and Wernher von Braun dotted around the reception area - quite the experience. The beauty is that in summertime the whole family can go - leave the wife and kids to paddle in the Baltic at Trassenheide or Karlshagen seaside resorts, or let them play in the bomb craters that line the beach, whilst you busy yourself with the technical museum in Peenemünde or the bombed-out ruins of the V2 experimental facility.

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Post by Paulheald » 30 Dec 2013, 19:04

Per courtesy of Der Spiegel on line
The former Nazi vacation complex on the Baltic Sea island of Rügen has been largely derelict for years. But a Berlin investor wants to change that. His dream? Luxury apartments where Hitler's followers once frolicked.
Axel Bering is the kind of person who seeks out challenges that would cause others to give up hope. For years, the former banker has been running a small history museum in Berlin that is far from being in the black. Furthermore, after the business-friendly Free Democratic Party (FDP) lost its seats in Berlin's city-state parliament, Bering became the party's deputy state chairman. And then, to top it all off, he bought a monumental structure on the Baltic Sea, which not even Nazi Germany had managed to complete.
Bering, a lanky 51-year-old, takes two steps at a time, scrambling over construction debris. He taps on exposed steel beams and walks the seemingly endless hallways, past broken windowpanes and openings covered with plastic sheeting.
"We're tearing out many of the walls, and we're installing floor heating and parquet flooring," he says. "The windows are being enlarged. It will be simply magnificent." Then Bering pauses for a moment, as his slick salesman's demeanor gives way to a cautious smile. "You certainly do need a lot of imagination to envision what it will look like," he says.
That, certainly, is a difficult statement to contradict. To build his "Meersinfonie" (Sea Symphony), a development of vacation apartments, he and his business partner Michael Jacobi want to renovate parts of Prora on the island of Rügen. Prora is a 4.5 kilometer-long (2.8-mile-long) steel-and-concrete monstrosity, which sits behind the dunes on a stretch of the island between the towns of Binz and Sassnitz.
Bizarre and Spooky
The Nazis built Prora, a massive tourist destination, under the auspices of their Kraft durch Freude ("Strength through Joy") leisure organization. The East German National People's Army used the complex as barracks. But after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the buildings at Prora fell into disrepair. Today, the Nazi relic serves primarily as a bizarre and spooky tourist attraction for vacationers staying in Binz, an upscale beach resort.
So why would people voluntarily spend their vacation in Prora, or perhaps even buy an apartment there for €200,000 ($257,000)? Bering raves about the fine white sand at the beach, which reminds him of the Danish island of Bornholm, where his family vacationed when he was a child. Such "1a beaches" have become a rare commodity in Germany, he says. "I fell in love with Prora when I first visited it in 2006," he says. Last year, he and Jacobi bought two sections of Building 2, which they plan to turn into about 60 apartments.
The Berlin native was one of the first to buy an apartment in his own development. Bering reserved a two-story unit with a terrace for himself in the building, where construction began in early April.
The duo began marketing the complex last year. They are advertising the project with the help of a glossy brochure filled with all kinds of computer-simulated images, as if the depressing Nazi backdrop had already been erased. The caption under one virtual snapshot, which depicts vacationers relaxing in a seaside townhouse, reads: "Awakened with a kiss and beautifully renovated."
"We're having trouble keeping up with the inquiries," claims Bering's partner Jacobi. They are coming from cities like Dresden and Berlin, he says, and even former East German soldiers once stationed in Prora are among the potential buyers. "The only people we don't want are Nazis who might want to raise the imperial war flag," says Jacobi. But he hasn't had any inquiries from them yet, he adds.
The two men claim that 11 apartments had already been sold by early May. Jacobi, who, like Bering, worked for Berlin's GrundkreditBank before becoming a real estate developer, hopes that the initial sales will bring in other buyers. "The business will really get going once the first apartments are finished," he says. According to Jacobi, the plans call for a shuttle bus to Binz and a parking garage, and the bumpy access road, constructed with concrete slabs when the East German army occupied the complex, will be repaved.
'A Little Skeptical'
Karsten Schneider, who has been mayor of nearby Binz since 2011, wishes the Prora visionaries nothing but the best. He does not object to the gloomy colossus down the road from his beach resort being turned into an investment with a bright future. But Schneider lacks faith in the project.
Before being elected mayor, Schneider was a high-school business and computer science teacher -- in other words, someone who knows how to calculate risks and opportunities. "I'm a little skeptical," says Schneider. He has seen too many flashy plans, and he has already watched other investors' proposals for the Nazi relic come to nothing. The former Berlin bankers, Bering and Jacobi, are not the first to try their luck with Prora.
After German reunification, the complex went to the federal government and was placed under landmark preservation. A sale of the entire property, long favored by the Federal Property Administration, was not an option. The federal government then decided to auction off Prora, one block at a time, but the effort was initially a failure.
Finally, in 2004, what was left of Building 6, which had been blown up after the war, was sold for €625,000 to an anonymous buyer based in Liechtenstein. Nothing has happened on the property since then, with the exception of a tall fence the new owner had built.
Building 3 went under the auctioneer's hammer that same year. It was sold to the highest bidder, Inselbogen, a real estate development company from the German city of Wuppertal. The building, which is 500 meters long (1,640 feet), has housed a documentation center on the history of Prora since the 1990s.
Inselbogen, apparently deterred by red tape and renovation costs, abandoned its original plans to turn the building into a hotel. As a result, there are no hotel guests to be disturbed by the pounding music emanating from the disco "Miami" on Friday and Saturday nights.
Aside from the documentation center, the disco, which includes a restaurant, is the only major tenant in the unrenovated complex. Inselbogen apparently has no plans to rent out other parts of the building at the moment. The company's office in Prora is usually empty, and a note on the door lists a mobile phone number at which the company can be reached.
The federal government sold off another kilometer of Prora in October 2006. A company owned by Ulrich Busch, the son of former singer and actor Ernst Busch, bought Buildings 1 and 2 for about €500,000.
Busch borrowed some of the money from an Austrian real estate broker, who then took over Building 1 and sold it for a profit last year to a company in Berlin, which plans to open a model apartment soon.
A Popular Youth Hostel
While the plans of Prora's private investors exist only on paper at the moment, the Rügen district government has already done something more concrete. In Building 5, it hasinstalled a 400-bed youth hostel, which attracts young people from all over the world. The hostel has barbecue areas and sports fields, as well as a café, making it the only renovated part of Prora on display at the moment.
It wasn't an entirely inexpensive venture. The section of the building used for the youth hostel cost €16.5 million to renovate, with most of the funds coming from federal subsidies, the European Union and the German state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania.
The youth hostel, with its fresh coat of white paint, is certainly attractive, but it's still a far cry from the developers' visions of luxury apartments with parquet floors, floor heating and kitchenettes. "A renovation on that scale can easily run into the hundreds of millions," says Binz Mayor Schneider.
But investor Bering remains undeterred. He is banking on a selling point that has always been successful in Germany: The purchase of a unit in Prora can be used as a tax deduction. The price per square meter in Bering's pilot project ranges from €2,200 on the land side to €3,300 for units with a view of the sea. Buyers can deduct up to two-thirds of the purchase price from their taxes, regardless of whether they intend to occupy the units or treat them as investments.
Germany offers tax benefits for the purchase of historic real estate, including units in the former Nazi colossus on the island of Rügen. But to qualify for tax breaks, the buildings, post-renovation, will have to retain the look created by Hitler's architects. Nevertheless, Bering has been permitted to include one modification: the addition of balconies facing the sea.

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Post by Paulheald » 04 Jan 2014, 08:06

Whatever may be the eventual fate of the "Colossus of Rugen" at Prora, it is probably the largest structure of the Third Reich era that is still in existence. Apparently the facility was not the huge success that the National Socialists had hoped for. The worker/guests reportedly did not like the fact that the very large camp staff were spying on them, nor did they like the progaganda aspects like the ceremonial raising and lowering of the Nazi flag at sunrise and sunset. To try to turn the present facility into something of a luxury nature might be seen by some as resurrecting the "glories" of the Hitler era. Hence the future success of the complex is dubious in the extreme and most likely to follow suit and remain as "The Ghost on the Coast".
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Post by Gilesusher » 04 Jan 2014, 15:56

Someone please tell me if I'm wrong. But I think the completion of Prora was un-germanically delayed because many of the construction workers were diverted to nearby Peenemünde after the first successful V 2 firing from Prüfstand 7 in October 1942. The successful test-firing convinced the authorities that the A 4 project wasn't a hopeless drain on resources (although, looked at objectively, it was, thank goodness).

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Post by Steve Hoog » 05 Jan 2014, 07:57

Gilesusher I probably have read something to that nature; but my memory is shot.
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Post by Heimatschuss » 05 Jan 2014, 13:46

Hello Gilesusher,

you're almost correct. Actually construction work in Pora was halted in Sept. 1939 already. Most builders, material stocks and machinery were transferred either to Peenemünde or to the Westwall (i.e. Siegfried line) which had much higher priority. In the coming months all hotel wings except wing 'South 4' were built to their full height and the roofs were finished to protect the raw edifices against rain. Windows, doors, stairs and loads of other parts were still missing (Rostock & Sadnicek, 1995, pp.82).

The only structures completed were homes of the futures hotel employees just west of the hotel. Two out of four of these one-storey settlements were ready for use since spring 1940. First they were utilized as barracks for various police battalions. In 1942 the barracks were turned over to the Kriegsmarine and the training battalion for female Navy signals auxiliaries
(Marine-Nachrichten-Helferinnen-Ausbildungs-Abteilung) settled there.

In autumn 1943 two segments of the hotel wing 'South I' were hastily finished to house people from Hamburg after the air raids there. That appears to have been the only inhabited part of the hotel till 1945 though there are some remarks about an Army hospital being quartered in the hotel in 1944 and refugees from the East in 1945.

Obviously there never was any KdF tourism in Prora so the negative comments Steve relates must be from some other place. I seem to recall that something like this was written about the KdF cruise ship travels somewhere.

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Rostock, Jürgen; Sadnicek, Franz
Paradiesruinen. Das KdF-Seebad der Zwanzigtausend.
Ch. Links Verlag; Berlin; 1995

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Post by Paulheald » 05 Jan 2014, 16:30

In your response above, Heimatschuss, you mention negative remarks about KdF cruises. I am aware of the KdF cruise liner m.v Wilhelm Gustloff, but were there other similar cruise ships dedicated to KdF activities and if so what happened to them?

As a former deep-sea mariner the mention of the m.v. "Wilhelm Gustloff" sends a chill up my spine. It was the worst maritime loss of life ever - possibly as many as 10,000 souls lost in that dreadful incident. This was many times greater than the RMS Titanic disaster. Yet very few know about the fate of the "Wilhelm Gustloff".
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Post by Heimatschuss » 09 Jan 2014, 17:16

Hello Paul,

KdF operated about a dozen passenger ships. The key vessels that were used exclusively by KdF in the so-called KdF-Flotte were:

Monte Olivia
built in 1924, chartered by KdF in 1934, served most of WWII as accomodation ship, in 1945 hospital ship, burned out in Kiel April 3rd, 1945 after RAF air raid, scrapped 1948
http://www.schiffe-maxim.de/Olivia.htm

Dresden
built 1914, chartered by KdF in May 1934, struck rocks off the Norwegian coast in a storm June 20th, 1934 and sank a day later (6 dead, 14 injured)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_% ... f,_1914%29

Der Deutsche
built in 1924, chartered by KdF in June 1934, property of KdF in 1935, most of WWII transport and then accomodation ship for the Kriegsmarine in Danzig and Gotenhafen, in 1945 evacuation transports from Eastern Germany, hit by RAF bombs May 3rd, 1945 in the western Baltic Sea, beached, lifted in 1947, war booty of the Soviet Union, passenger liner Asia, scrapped 1970
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Morena_%28Schiff%29

Sierra Cordoba
built in 1924, sister ship of 'Der Deutsche' chartered by KdF in June 1934, property of KdF in 1935, in WWII accomodation ship for the Kriegsmarine in Hamburg and Kiel, 1944 badly damaged but repaired, 1945 British war booty, accomodation ship for Royal Navy in Hamburg, burned out Jan 13th, 1946, while under tow for scrapping in Scotland the wreck broke lose and sank off the Danish coast Jan 18th, 1948
http://www.schiffe-maxim.de/Cordoba.htm

Oceana
built 1913, chartered by KdF 1934, property of KdF since 1938, in 1939 accomodation ship of the Kriegsmarine in Gotenhafen, in Jan. 1945 to West Germany, in 1945 confiscated by the Brits, after mine damage in 1946 handed over to the Soviet Union, scrapped in 1963
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceana_%28Schiff,_1913%29

Stuttgart
built in 1923, operated for KdF since 1937, bought by KdF in 1938, 1939 hospital ship, burned out after US air raid on Gotenhafen Oct 9th, 1943, the wreck still burning was towed out of the harbour and then sank.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_ ... f,_1924%29

St. Louis
built in 1928, operated for KdF since 1934, property of HAPAG, accomodation ship of the Kriegsmarine since 1940, partially burned out in Kiel Aug 30th, 1944 after RAF air raid, beached, towed to Hamburg in 1946 to serve as stationary hotel ship, scrapped in 1952
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_%28Schiff%29
http://www.schiffe-maxim.de/Louis.htm

Wilhelm Gustloff

Robert Ley
built in 1938, sister ship of the Gustloff, in service since March 1939, burned out in Hamburg March 9th, 1945 after RAF air raid, scrapped in 1947
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ley_%28Schiff%29

Besides them there were ships used from time to time by KdF. There were some remarks that KdF also employed the following passenger liners though this list may not be complete:

Milwaukee
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_%281929%29

Monte Rosa
http://www.schiffe-maxim.de/Rosa.htm

Monte Sarmiento
http://www.schiffe-maxim.de/Sarmiento.htm

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Post by Geoff Walden » 09 Jan 2014, 19:57

Hi Paul, Hi Torsten,

I was watching a show on German TV last night about the origins of Alpine skiing tourism, and the show said that the first large groups of tourists who came into the Bavarian Alps to ski were KdF trips during the mid-30s. I had not heard this before. Of course, the 1936 winter Olympics in Garmisch-Partenkirchen boosted the tourism as well.

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Post by Paulheald » 10 Jan 2014, 12:59

Hi Torsten, Thanks so much for that very comprehensive response about ships assocuiated with the KdF program -Wow that's quite a fleet! A sad end to most of them, though. :cry:

Thanks also to you, Geoff, for the additional info about commercial skiing holidays pioneered by the KdF program.

So all in all KdF it looks like it was a very successful program with many facets that we have not explored so far. The Volksie Beetle being one of these to enable every worker to purchase their own car. I understand that there was a scheme whereby the workers could save a portion of their wages into the KdF fund and eventually purchase a Volksie with their savings. An impressive marketing strategy for its day and age!

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Post by Geoff Walden » 19 Dec 2014, 11:13

New article ... current info. It sounds like - if you haven't yet had the opportunity to visit Prora, it's too late to see it as it was after the NVA left, somewhat the same as it was in 1945. It sounds like the building complex is/will undergo rather massive changes, like the Jugendherberge in Berchtesgaden (on a much smaller scale) and the Autobahn rest stop at Chiemsee. These changes happen because the German government, wishing to ignore (and thus not call attention to) the remains of the Third Reich, neglect to consider them for Denkmalschutz (historic properties protection), and some monied entity steps in and buys the property and goes to work to change it as they see fit. Then any historic integrity is gone.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur ... story.html

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Post by ghostsoldier » 19 Dec 2014, 15:38

*sigh*

Sadly, that mind-set prevails the world over; and, unfortunately, they won't know what they had, until it's gone.

Because everyone knows that systematically ignoring the past always makes it just magically 'go away', and lessens it's impact. :roll:

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