Auschwitz Buildings, “outside the wire”

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Post by Makarov » 17 Jun 2015, 19:25

Geoff Walden wrote:I'm pretty sure there are no remains of the original buildings of Kanada I. I drove past there, but didn't walk around
According to the book, Auschwitz From A to Z: An illustrated History, Kanada I was built in the summer of 1942 at the site where the DAW factory was being built and consisted of six wooden barracks and a desinfection chamber installed in an old masonry House. All of the Buildings were surrounded by a barbed wire fence with Watch Towers at each corner. When those Buildings were torned down it doesn´t say and nothing seems to remain.
GregSingh wrote:Yellow Circle: Swimming pool
There were several of those water pools all over the complex. In German they were referred to as Feuerlöschteich - fire extinguishing pond ?
How many of those water pools exist today, beside this one, the one at the camp itself and the water pools in Birkenau?

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Post by GregSingh » 18 Jun 2015, 01:14

How many of those water pools exist today, beside this one, the one at the camp itself and the water pools in Birkenau?
I know location of three more former water pools - there is no water there as they were filled with soil to the ground level and became lawns. Still rectangular shapes are clearly visible in Google Satellite view.


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Post by Olek » 15 Jul 2015, 23:58

While visiting Auschwitz I was determined to visit Solahütte. Here are the pictures I thought I would share that I took in January 2015.
Before/After picture is my speculation, I am not a hundred percent sure that this is an exact place where SS people stood.
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Post by Paulheald » 16 Jul 2015, 15:29

Thanks Oleg for the pics. It all looks very forlorn, as it would do in winter time. Behind the SS staff, that you super-imposed in your first picture, there is a building that was not shown on the original pic of the SS group. Is that building a later addition or was it out of range of the original picture?

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Post by Makarov » 20 Jul 2015, 08:52

Olek wrote:Before/After picture is my speculation, I am not a hundred percent sure that this is an exact place where SS people stood.
More or less right on spot.
Paulheald wrote:Behind the SS staff, that you super-imposed in your first picture, there is a building that was not shown on the original pic of the SS group. Is that building a later addition or was it out of range of the original picture?
I´m pretty sure that the building behind the officers is a much later addition.

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Post by mikeswansea » 24 Jul 2015, 18:45

Hi Guys,

Does anybody know what the derelict building was formerly used for during the existence of the Camp which is located opposite the Centre of Dialogue and about 200 yards behind the Wooden Building formerly used as the SS Canteen & Theatre block ???
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Post by Geoff Walden » 26 Jul 2015, 18:31

Hi Mike,

Welcome to AHF!
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That building was called the "Lagerhaus" - a part of the SS complex used for storage. It was one of the pre-war (1916-17) buildings of the Polish Tobacco company, that were taken over by the SS.

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Post by Makarov » 28 Jul 2015, 09:46

I have just got back from Auschwitz and the barack (SS officers building) in the left red circle in the picture´s upper right corner and existed in May has burned down. I could litteraly feel the smell of fire so it must have been burnt down very recently. Wether it was by accident, deliberately or an act of vandalise I don´t know.
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Here is a Picture of the extension of the camp just outside the main camp that nowadays serves as private Residences.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 28 Jul 2015, 23:04

Thanks for the update, Makarov. It's a shame that original artifacts like that are not protected, so the worst can happen to them.

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Post by Paulheald » 15 Aug 2015, 15:15

I agree with your comments, Geoff, on the destruction of National Socialist era artifacts. By so doing does not re-write history but rather destroys those things from which future generations can learn from the mistakes made during that particular period of history.

I have been very fascinated by some contents of Auschwitz "outside the wire" particularly some of the buildings. It looks like the SS Staff had fairly extensive facilities for their relaxation when off duty - a sauna, a casino, a theater etc. For obvious reasons I have come across very little in the way of description of what it was like to be an SS staff member at Auschwitz. I guess that as there are very few of them left alive now; either they cannot remember or prefer to stay shtum on the subject. Has anybody got any details of what the off duty life was like inside Auschwitz for the camp staff?

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Post by Geoff Walden » 14 Sep 2015, 10:43

I just returned from a week of exploring around Auschwitz. I will have a lot of new photos to add to the "Third Reich in Ruins" website, but here are some previews.

This is the former SS Kindergarten school, near the Auschwitz I main camp.
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I found several air raid shelters that I had not seen before. This large concrete bunker is adjacent to the site of the "Leonard Haag" workers camp near the IG Farben Buna-Werke factory. Also a smaller concrete and stone shelter nearby.
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There are several of these large concrete cube shelters on the grounds of the former Buna-Werke factory.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 14 Sep 2015, 10:48

Inside the small air raid shelter that is across the street from the SS Küche building, "outside the wire" of the main camp.
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Unfortunately, I found some artifacts gone now. This tower, near the site of the "Pulverturm" workers camp at the factory site, was there last year but gone now. (I could never find any info on this tower, except that it was supposedly a period artifact associated with the Buna-Werke factory. One source called it an "SS water tower.")
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I searched for two suspected original barracks buildings at the Monowitz camp site, but they are both gone now, along with the one that Makarov previously notified us was gone (I think it was Makarov that made that post, in another thread). These two Google Maps Street View screen captures shows these structures, but they are no longer there. I suspect they were removed when the known original barracks shed was removed recently.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 19 Sep 2015, 18:58

Paulheald wrote:For obvious reasons I have come across very little in the way of description of what it was like to be an SS staff member at Auschwitz. I guess that as there are very few of them left alive now; either they cannot remember or prefer to stay shtum on the subject. Has anybody got any details of what the off duty life was like inside Auschwitz for the camp staff?
Hi Paul,

Last week at the Auschwitz museum I bought a little book published last year, that I thought would cover just this subject. "The Private Lives of the Auschwitz SS," by Piotr Setkiewicz, Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum (2014), ISBN 978-83-7704-075-1. However, I found that, although the book is interesting, it is just a collection of interviews done in the 1970s, of Polish girls who worked in various SS households around Auschwitz when they were teenagers. It does not have much info at all about the SS men themselves, more about their wives and children. There are some interesting details - such as, the head of the Zentralbauleitung, Karl Bischoff, and his wife did not get along at all, and when Bischoff was away from home (frequently), his wife spent a lot of time drinking and partying at the SS officers club. The Bischoffs had a lot of gold and valuables - presumably looted from the prisoners - that they took with them when they evacuated before the Soviets arrived. Just little things like that in the book.

It seems that I ran across a footnote somewhere of a better book on the subject, but I can't recall where I saw it.

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Post by shamirnewell » 20 Sep 2015, 00:19

Geoff Walden wrote:
Paulheald wrote:For obvious reasons I have come across very little in the way of description of what it was like to be an SS staff member at Auschwitz. I guess that as there are very few of them left alive now; either they cannot remember or prefer to stay shtum on the subject. Has anybody got any details of what the off duty life was like inside Auschwitz for the camp staff?
Hi Paul,

Last week at the Auschwitz museum I bought a little book published last year, that I thought would cover just this subject. "The Private Lives of the Auschwitz SS," by Piotr Setkiewicz, Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum (2014), ISBN 978-83-7704-075-1. However, I found that, although the book is interesting, it is just a collection of interviews done in the 1970s, of Polish girls who worked in various SS households around Auschwitz when they were teenagers. It does not have much info at all about the SS men themselves, more about their wives and children. There are some interesting details - such as, the head of the Zentralbauleitung, Karl Bischoff, and his wife did not get along at all, and when Bischoff was away from home (frequently), his wife spent a lot of time drinking and partying at the SS officers club. The Bischoffs had a lot of gold and valuables - presumably looted from the prisoners - that they took with them when they evacuated before the Soviets arrived. Just little things like that in the book.

It seems that I ran across a footnote somewhere of a better book on the subject, but I can't recall where I saw it.


The BBC series has an interview with Oskar Groening who was a SS staff member at Auschwitz. see this video about 3:25 into it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHo1r5hx1wk

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Post by Geoff Walden » 21 Sep 2015, 17:16

Does anyone know what these ruins were? They appear a little south of the site of the "Neuer Bauhof," cattycorner across the street from the Krupp/Union factory ruin, in the industrial area outside the Auschwitz I main camp. The objects lying around look like they might be concrete cable tubes (?). The ruin looks like a water facility, or some storage building with very small chambers. I can't find anything in recent studies of the industrial area, that point out anything in this location.
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Same with this ruined factory building that is beside the Krupp/Union factory ruin (also circled in the Google Maps screen capture above). It shows up in period aerial photos, but again, I haven't found it listed in any reference (except I think I saw something that said it belonged to DAW).
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