Auschwitz Buildings, “outside the wire”

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Some images from the Soletal resort, Międzybrodzie. (2007)
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Some images from the Soletal resort, Międzybrodzie.
Destruction of former SS - Sola Hütte (2011)

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Post by wm » 03 May 2015, 22:11

lots of interesting photos, so...
the coach to Sola-Hütte leaves Auschwitz at 15:00.
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Re: Auschwitz Buildings, “outside the wire”

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Post by Makarov » 05 Jun 2015, 10:42

GregSingh wrote:Does anyone know where was SS casino building? Not the "SS Deutsches Haus. Haus der Waffen SS". That's different building!
In the book, The Private Lives of the Auschwitz SS, page 37, a female witness who used to work as a housekeeper in a private home of an SS officer mentioned the building marked with a yellow Circle as a SS officers Club house. Wether this building is the Casino you are looking for I cant tell ´cause it also functioned as a hotel for SS officers called SS-Führerheim.

Building in blue Circle is in the same book by many witnesses referred to as Haus 7. A house where SS families and their (domestic) servants went to shop groceries on reguarly bases.
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Post by GregSingh » 05 Jun 2015, 16:08

Thanks Makarov!

Building in the yellow circle was indeed SS-Führerheim, which hosted a casino.
And building in the blue circle was officially called "Laden und Caffehaus der Kantinengemeinschaft Auschwitz Haus 7".

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Post by Makarov » 05 Jun 2015, 17:52

GregSingh wrote:Building in the yellow circle was indeed SS-Führerheim, which hosted a casino.
So this is the Casino you were loooking for?? Or are we looking for Another Casino?
GregSingh wrote:And building in the blue circle was officially called "Laden und Caffehaus der Kantinengemeinschaft Auschwitz Haus 7".
Thank´s for clarification, in the book it´s only referred to as Haus 7.

I will probably go back to Auschwitz in late July and will for sure take a closer look at these Buildings. I didn´t know about them until I read the book I refer to which I bought when I visited Auschwitz in mid May and didn´t read until I got back home.

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Post by GregSingh » 06 Jun 2015, 08:45

So this is the Casino you were loooking for?? Or are we looking for Another Casino?
Yes, it is. I had a name of the building terribly misspelled from the other source and couldn't work out what they meant.
Once you came up with a correct name SS-Führerheim, bingo!

Basically all buildings along streets: Polna, Kreta, Osiedlowa and Grabarska were used as accommodation for the employee of the complex.
I've seen their surnames in one of the sources.

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Post by history1 » 06 Jun 2015, 17:28

GregSingh wrote:[...]
Basically all buildings along streets: Polna, Kreta, Osiedlowa and Grabarska were used as accommodation for the employee of the complex.
I've seen their surnames in one of the sources.
Maybe of some interest:
Polna = Field Road
Kręta = Turned Road, not Kreta = [European] Mole Road
Osiedlowa = Settlement Road
Garbarska = Tannery Road, not Grabarska

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Post by Makarov » 06 Jun 2015, 20:37

GregSingh wrote:Yes, it is. I had a name of the building terribly misspelled from the other source and couldn't work out what they meant.
Once you came up with a correct name SS-Führerheim, bingo!
Glad that I could help you out, it´s usually the other way round :D
GregSingh wrote:Basically all buildings along streets: Polna, Kreta, Osiedlowa and Grabarska were used as accommodation for the employee of the complex.
Some of these streets are mentioned in the book I refer to, I will take a closer look when I go back in July.

Blue Circle: SS slaughterhouse and Dairy.
Yellow Circle: Swimming pool.
Pink Circle: SS industry (Today private Residences?)
Red Circle: SS Bakery.

Regarding the Swimming pool, do we know when it was built and who made use of it.
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Post by GregSingh » 07 Jun 2015, 07:01

history1, thanks for correcting and translating those street names for us.

Do we know German names? Somehow I doubt Polish names were used during 1940-45....

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Post by GregSingh » 07 Jun 2015, 07:09

Just for the record:

Blue Circle: SS slaughterhouse and Dairy - prov. Schlachthaus mit Molkerei - built 1941-43
Red Circle: SS Bakery - prov. Bäckerei - built 1942-43
Pink Circle: SS industry - these barracks seemed to be of Schutzhaftlagererweiterung

Yellow Circle: Swimming pool
There were several of those water pools all over the complex. In German they were referred to as Feuerlöschteich - fire extinguishing pond ?

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Post by 4thskorpion » 07 Jun 2015, 08:54

wm wrote:lots of interesting photos, so...
the coach to Sola-Hütte leaves Auschwitz at 15:00.
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Re: Auschwitz Buildings, “outside the wire”

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Post by Geoff Walden » 07 Jun 2015, 12:39

Makarov wrote:
GregSingh wrote:Yes, it is. I had a name of the building terribly misspelled from the other source and couldn't work out what they meant.
Once you came up with a correct name SS-Führerheim, bingo!
Glad that I could help you out, it´s usually the other way round :D
GregSingh wrote:Basically all buildings along streets: Polna, Kreta, Osiedlowa and Grabarska were used as accommodation for the employee of the complex.
Some of these streets are mentioned in the book I refer to, I will take a closer look when I go back in July.

Blue Circle: SS slaughterhouse and Dairy.
Yellow Circle: Swimming pool.
Pink Circle: SS industry (Today private Residences?)
Red Circle: SS Bakery.

Regarding the Swimming pool, do we know when it was built and who made use of it
All of these original buildings are still there. I believe Hans (NL) has posted photos of some of them in another thread. The pink circle shows part of the "Enweiterungslager" - the extension to Auschwitz I (as Greg pointed out). Eventually, most of the Polish female prisoners were moved there, and this became the main site for the forced sterilization experiments for SS doctors. It is private apartment housing today, and also a part that is closed off (I'm not sure if this is a police area, or military?).

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Re: Auschwitz Buildings, “outside the wire”

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Post by history1 » 07 Jun 2015, 17:43

GregSingh wrote:[...]
There were several of those water pools all over the complex. In German they were referred to as Feuerlöschteich - fire extinguishing pond ?
Hi Greg,

literaly yes. But better translations are "fire pond", "artificial static water supply" or "fire protection pond".
Ref. the german street names I´ll go through my books. Maybe I´m lucky.

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