Geoff the spot of the teehouse ruins are not accesible by car, but i visited the theehouse by car if you take the spornhofweg. if you follow this road through the end you will come by some houses, where we parked our car and then had very steep climb of approximately 30 minutes to the teahouse. Maybe not the shortest road but you dont have to worrie about trespassing the golf course.Geoff Walden wrote: 4. It would appear that AH used to drive back from the Teehuis - is there still a road that one could use to access this site by car?
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You have nothing to worry about when you take a visit on a rainy day. There are no golfers on the cource then, and you have the field to yourself, while the golfers are hiding behind a schnaps in the bar.
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And the skull in the wall...
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Cor, you're right - that's another possible route to reach the Teehaus site. But that Spornhof road is not the route that Hitler's autos took when he was driven back to the Berghof.
@NL - it's really hard to believe, but I have seen golfers out on that course on a day when the rain was pouring down in buckets (I saw a couple out there as I walked back from the Teehaus on a rainy day this past October, having walked across the golf course because I was so sure that there would be no-one else out there that day). And I've seen them out there while it was snowing too ... really ambitious, to chase around a ittle white ball with snowflakes coming down! I've often wondered - is that the only golf course anywhere near Berchtesgaden, or what?
@NL - it's really hard to believe, but I have seen golfers out on that course on a day when the rain was pouring down in buckets (I saw a couple out there as I walked back from the Teehaus on a rainy day this past October, having walked across the golf course because I was so sure that there would be no-one else out there that day). And I've seen them out there while it was snowing too ... really ambitious, to chase around a ittle white ball with snowflakes coming down! I've often wondered - is that the only golf course anywhere near Berchtesgaden, or what?
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Never underestimate the determination of a golfer to humiliate him/herself. I am hoping to play the Berchtesgaden course myself one day; a chance to indulge two passions simultaneously.
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Hello Annelie - most interesting pics being offered on eBay. The one posted by you on this thread showing the driveway with the umbrellas - is that Bormann's Tree on the extreme LHS of the picture? It looks to me a bit too close to the Berghof to be that particular tree.
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I don't know if this has been posted before, but a good view of the greehouse complex, source now unknown
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That is the Bormann tree - it was the only tree that close to the driveway, probably just looks a little closer to the Berghof from that angle.Paulheald wrote:Hello Annelie - most interesting pics being offered on eBay. The one posted by you on this thread showing the driveway with the umbrellas - is that Bormann's Tree on the extreme LHS of the picture? It looks to me a bit too close to the Berghof to be that particular tree.
BTW, the ebay listing price for the photo set is WAY out of line ... especially since there are only 11 of the 12 pictures. The set is relisted at http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 0758610777 . Look at picture #10, another unusual shot of the Obersalzberg ruins, showing the destroyed Kindergarten building with the Kaserne and Platterhof in the background.
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Thank you Alpenfestung - I can see that it is the angle in the eBay pic that makes Bormann's Tree look closer to the Berghof. As a paying hobby I do photography of up-market apartments and houses in Cape Town. Clients often beg me to manipulate the results in Photoshop. I always refuse, but often get around a problem by judicious choice of angle. I agree that the pics offered on eBay are way out of line price-wise. What a pity it is that the ruins were not left more or less as they were in these pictures - it could have served as a monument to the crass stupidity of war. Ernest Hemingway once said, "never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime."
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In 2008 i bought a book about the Obersalzbergstollen, (Obersalzberg Tunnels) which is called Hitlers Berg.
Hardcover 261 pages, ISBN 3-929825-05-08
The book is packed with photo's but rarely seen on the www.
Today i took some photo's of the inside of the book which i would like to share with you here.
A book worth recommending for those interested in the Obersalzberg and its tunnels laying below it.
The photo's i took do not do the book justice, and most images in the book are much larger, but i had to
reduce the size in order to get them posted here. Please enjoy the images.
Hardcover 261 pages, ISBN 3-929825-05-08
The book is packed with photo's but rarely seen on the www.
Today i took some photo's of the inside of the book which i would like to share with you here.
A book worth recommending for those interested in the Obersalzberg and its tunnels laying below it.
The photo's i took do not do the book justice, and most images in the book are much larger, but i had to
reduce the size in order to get them posted here. Please enjoy the images.
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Lager Dürreck
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Cross view tunnels
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Stollen Theaterhalle
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