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Hello,
I made a post here with a link to the complete video, but for some reason it did not show up? If you search "The Day Hitler Died" on Dailymotion, you'll find the complete video.
I made a post here with a link to the complete video, but for some reason it did not show up? If you search "The Day Hitler Died" on Dailymotion, you'll find the complete video.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3tfjwhHinomaru wrote:Hello,
I made a post here with a link to the complete video, but for some reason it did not show up? If you search "The Day Hitler Died" on Dailymotion, you'll find the complete video.
But surely this is not all of the original Musmanno interviews.
It looks like scenes from other archival film and from The Downfall [ or a new reenactment] have been cut in.
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Definitely agree that it's not all of the Musmanno interviews, but from what I've read there is only about 6 hours of footage found. There was more that seems to be lost. If you follow the Smithsonian link you posted on the prior thread, at the bottom, it give details that the interviews are available at the Duquesne's Gumberg Library for viewing. The digital transcripts of those interviews are available online. The re-enactments is definitely not from Downfall, this whole program was a Smithsonian production.
http://digital.library.duq.edu:2012/cdm ... suppress/0
http://digital.library.duq.edu:2012/cdm ... suppress/0
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Thanks Geoff, looks wonderful to me.
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Nice color picture of Knut Hamsun visiting the Berghof on June 26th, 1943. Also in the picture: Rudolph Schmundt, Otto Dietrich, Egil Holmboe and Ernst Züchner:
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/adolf ... 35364.html
Eva Braun and Henriette von Schirach at the western Berghof stairs:
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/adolf ... 364-7.html
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/adolf ... 35364.html
Eva Braun and Henriette von Schirach at the western Berghof stairs:
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/adolf ... 364-7.html
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Hello Everyone:)
Great Forum, super information in the subject of Berghof!
I wan't to discuss interesting thing regarding to the place. Few month ago I read an article about Kevin Wheatcroft- the biggest known German Militaria and Hitler personal items collector on the world.There is article below.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... itlers-bed
I'm wondering about situation, Mr Wheatcroft mention, how did he get few items from Berghof:
“We pulled them out of the ruins of the Berghof [Hitler’s home in Berchtesgaden] in May 1989. The whole place was dynamited in ’52, but my friend Adrian and I climbed through the ruins of the garage and down through air vents to get in. You can still walk through all of the underground levels. We made our way by torchlight through laundry rooms, central heating service areas. Then a bowling alley with big signs for Coke all over it. Hitler loved to drink Coke. We brought back these wine racks.”
Is it possible in 1989 year to get into the cellar and were there things unaffected still?
Thanks a lot and waitning for a discussion.....
Marc
Great Forum, super information in the subject of Berghof!
I wan't to discuss interesting thing regarding to the place. Few month ago I read an article about Kevin Wheatcroft- the biggest known German Militaria and Hitler personal items collector on the world.There is article below.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... itlers-bed
I'm wondering about situation, Mr Wheatcroft mention, how did he get few items from Berghof:
“We pulled them out of the ruins of the Berghof [Hitler’s home in Berchtesgaden] in May 1989. The whole place was dynamited in ’52, but my friend Adrian and I climbed through the ruins of the garage and down through air vents to get in. You can still walk through all of the underground levels. We made our way by torchlight through laundry rooms, central heating service areas. Then a bowling alley with big signs for Coke all over it. Hitler loved to drink Coke. We brought back these wine racks.”
Is it possible in 1989 year to get into the cellar and were there things unaffected still?
Thanks a lot and waitning for a discussion.....
Marc
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Hi Marc, welcomegospo wrote:Hello Everyone:)
“but my friend A drian and I climbed through the ruins of the garage and down through air vents to get in. ”
Is it possible in 1989 year to get into the cellar and were there things unaffected still?
Marc
this is true, there was an air vent in the berghof garage that leads to the cellars of the Berghof. This was accesible in in the 80's. If you search on the internet you will find photo's.
see also https://picasaweb.google.com/1097818307 ... 0524172642 and further photo's
If there were things unaffected still i doubt this.
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Cor, so do You think even when someone got inside would find things like wine racks, Coca-Coal signs and so on?Thanks
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Welcome, Marc!
There was a good magazine article some years ago on this very subject:
Osborne, Jim R., 'Return to the Berghof', After the Battle, 60 (1988), 50-53.
The author and others entered the underground spaces from the garage in the summer of 1987. They found a lot of trash and rubble, and they recovered one relic - part of a porcelain drain piece. They described nothing like Coke signs or wine racks - obviously, this drain piece was all they saw worth taking. Perhaps they did not get into the Kegelbahn, as it sounds like Wheatcroft et al. did, but I know others who have been in there, and it sounded like it was in ruins like the rest. After all, these spaces had been accessible by the adventurous explorer for years. I would be very skeptical about claims of any such extravagant artifacts found there as late as 1989.
I had never before read that Hitler liked Coke (Coca-Cola). Can anyone confirm this with a period or eyewitness reference?
Geoff
There was a good magazine article some years ago on this very subject:
Osborne, Jim R., 'Return to the Berghof', After the Battle, 60 (1988), 50-53.
The author and others entered the underground spaces from the garage in the summer of 1987. They found a lot of trash and rubble, and they recovered one relic - part of a porcelain drain piece. They described nothing like Coke signs or wine racks - obviously, this drain piece was all they saw worth taking. Perhaps they did not get into the Kegelbahn, as it sounds like Wheatcroft et al. did, but I know others who have been in there, and it sounded like it was in ruins like the rest. After all, these spaces had been accessible by the adventurous explorer for years. I would be very skeptical about claims of any such extravagant artifacts found there as late as 1989.
I had never before read that Hitler liked Coke (Coca-Cola). Can anyone confirm this with a period or eyewitness reference?
Geoff
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Míra`s, our friend, relics from Obersalzberg. Does it prove?
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I climbed under the Berghof in 1982 or thereabouts. There was rubble and not much else of interest but there was evidence that someone had been partying down there - candles and graffiti etc. Perhaps these 'explorers' provided the Coke bottle? I still have some photos somewhere which I took under the house but I have already posted one here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... start=1935 If you look at the photo (under the shot of the Goering steps(?)) you will see neonazi graffiti on the wall.
Kein Irrtum ist so groß, der nicht seinen Zuhörer hat.
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Any pictures about actually showing the underground ruins of the Kegelbahn? I'm finding it exceedingly hard to believe that anyone could manage to get that far underground.
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I believe that people who have been in the Kegelbahn area got through from the other side. But as I understand it, the cellar roof was collapsed during the bombing, somewhere along the side wing, so probably not all that area has been accessible, and it was probably not accessible from the garage. I'm just speculating ... I have not been in there myself.
@Pavel - Looks convincing to me! Thanks to Mira!
@Pavel - Looks convincing to me! Thanks to Mira!