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Post by Annelie » 26 Jun 2004, 13:34

Fliegerhorste
Some are handled rather cladistine and the original owners agree a "finder's reward" to get their items back without lengthly legal procedures.
Yes, I understand that sometimes this happens but many of the
original owners are deceased and it is up to the heirs to
supply proof of original ownership. The one case I personally
know of could not after contact with auction house gain their
art work and it was sold. This was over ten years ago but I think
now there maybe other alternatives?

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Post by Fliegerhorste » 26 Jun 2004, 13:29

Annelie wrote:Fliegerhorste
And the Americans took what they could get: technology, artwork etc.
You should remember that since the end of the war a good number of important artworks are lost - sometime pop up from uncertain sources and offered for sale in the USA.
Yes, I agree and I know that some have ended up at auctions
houses.

I remember not long ago that an very rare bible/icon ended up
in California hidden in an bank vault until the person died and then
their heirs tried to auction of the item and it ended up in
litigation but I don't remembe the outcome.
I see, you know what I am talking about. There are a number of cases like that. Some are handled rather cladistine and the original owners agree a "finder's reward" to get their items back without lengthly legal procedures.
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Post by Annelie » 26 Jun 2004, 13:21

Fliegerhorste
And the Americans took what they could get: technology, artwork etc.
You should remember that since the end of the war a good number of important artworks are lost - sometime pop up from uncertain sources and offered for sale in the USA.
Yes, I agree and I know that some have ended up at auctions
houses.

I remember not long ago that an very rare bible/icon ended up
in California hidden in an bank vault until the person died and then
their heirs tried to auction of the item and it ended up in
litigation but I don't remembe the outcome.

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Post by Fliegerhorste » 26 Jun 2004, 13:15

Annelie wrote:Fliegerhorste wrote
Plundering - I think that was left for the Americans to do from 1945 on.

I suppose the Russians took gifts? :(
And the Americans took what they could get: technology, artwork etc.
You should remember that since the end of the war a good number of important artworks are lost - sometime pop up from uncertain sources and offered for sale in the USA.

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Post by Annelie » 26 Jun 2004, 13:10

Fliegerhorste wrote
Plundering - I think that was left for the Americans to do from 1945 on.

I suppose the Russians took gifts? :(

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Post by Fliegerhorste » 26 Jun 2004, 12:38

Cammin1 wrote:Hello, I was wondering if their is a picture of the inside that included some of the plundered art work? I've searched here and the web and haven't found much.
Thanks
Plundered? No, Göring bought all this artwork. Plundering - I think that was left for the Americans to do from 1945 on.

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Post by The Blond Beast » 24 May 2004, 07:01

Cammin1
I liked David Irving’s book very much, I have read many of his books and have found all of them to be very informative. I am sorry to see that Mr. Irving has gotten him self in to the present mess of witch I know little. I will admit that his books are a little slanted to the German point of view, but after reading other authors who trip over themselves to belittle and discredit the Germans it a pleasant change. The other book that has great pictures of Karinhall is; Art and Architecture of the Third Reich. This is a very interesting book although as stated before; the author belittles the Germans for having primitive taste in Art and Architecture and likes to lament on how simple minded it is.( :P )

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Post by Johnny » 23 May 2004, 22:27

Then all I need is a pickup and a shovle :D

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Post by Annelie » 23 May 2004, 19:15

J.M. has given the link below.


"http://www.bunker-ig.de/intro/start/bun ... nhall.html "


I understand that
"There is nothing left but the gatehouse pillars and some buried ruins."

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Post by varjag » 23 May 2004, 12:39

Annelie wrote:dwseiple
Can anyone give directions to the ruins of this building? Is there anything left at this site?
I believe it is completely destroyed with no evidence left of its
location?
Wasn't 'Fatty Hermann' himself by the detonators when they blew the place to pieces? The Reichsmarshall didn't do things by half. Of course remnants must have been left - but the 'no relics to remain' policies of East German government probably obliterated just about any physical memories of Hermann's retreat. BUT - I keep wondering - wouldn't there be at least one or two railway-model enthusiasts - that found the odd loco or carriage - in the debris. And carried it away for posterity? I'll almost bet there is.

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Post by Johnny » 22 May 2004, 20:41

I think the complex gate walls are still thre? am I wrong?

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Post by Annelie » 22 May 2004, 14:56

dwseiple
Can anyone give directions to the ruins of this building? Is there anything left at this site?
I believe it is completely destroyed with no evidence left of its
location?

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Post by Johnny » 21 May 2004, 18:20

Hehe varjag, isn't that a bit picky? Common mistake for people lacking in scandinavian knowledge :D

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Post by varjag » 21 May 2004, 12:54

Excuse me - but did not he call his little hunting cabin Karinhall?
Seems a cosy place......

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Post by Cammin1 » 21 May 2004, 03:06

Thanks all

Blond,
What did you think of Irvings book? Man he was "colorful" (qouting Percy Garison).

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