Gauleiter Questions and Answers

[Mark Costa]

Pitimo:

On Habicht his appointment to the "zbV der Reichsleitung" actually dates from much earlier --sometime in 1933. It was at this time that he wore the collar tabs of what is called the "reichsorganizationleiter". These were reserved for those attached to reichsleitung depts. In late 1933 they were abolished. Habicht was still attached to the reichsleitung, but now he was allowed to wear the honorary/retired tabs of a gauleiter. The "title" of these tabs were universally know as Honorary/Retired, but they also were used to denote those few men attached to the reichsleitung without a "position". Why they used these tabs I have not been able to ascertain. So of all those who wore these BLACK tabs --some are Honorary (Krebs), some are Retired (Kube) and some were these zbV guys like Habicht.

In regards to the gaufuhrer vs gauleiter titles -- I agree with Phil that I believe this was an Austrian "illegal" title and you will find it was used mostly before 1930. Remember all titles etc used in Austria before May 1938 was never recognized by the NSDAP in Munich.

Mark

[Pitino]

Pitimo:

On Habicht his appointment to the "zbV der Reichsleitung" actually dates from much earlier --sometime in 1933. It was at this time that he wore the collar tabs of what is called the "reichsorganizationleiter". These were reserved for those attached to reichsleitung depts. In late 1933 they were abolished. Habicht was still attached to the reichsleitung, but now he was allowed to wear the honorary/retired tabs of a gauleiter. The "title" of these tabs were universally know as Honorary/Retired, but they also were used to denote those few men attached to the reichsleitung without a "position". Why they used these tabs I have not been able to ascertain. So of all those who wore these BLACK tabs --some are Honorary (Krebs), some are Retired (Kube) and some were these zbV guys like Habicht.

In regards to the gaufuhrer vs gauleiter titles -- I agree with Phil that I believe this was an Austrian "illegal" title and you will find it was used mostly before 1930. Remember all titles etc used in Austria before May 1938 was never recognized by the NSDAP in Munich.

Mark

Mark,
-Thanks for the information!!! So Habicht was actually given the z.b.V. appointment in 1933. Thanks for the correction as well!!! As I was saying earlier, I thought the Gaufuhrer title was an Austrian thing. The only men that I have come across that were appointed Gaufuhrer were the Austrians and like you said about the time period, it seems to be before 1930. I know the titles were not recognized in Austria until after the Anschluss, but I wonder why one man can be titled a Gaufuhrer while another man in another district at the same time was given the title of Gauleiter. Maybe I am being too picky about the difference in titles!!!! Thanks again!!!

Pitino

[Pitino]

-If anyone can help fill in the missing appointment dates to the Honorary Gauleiters list then please help out!!!! Most of my dates come from Forum member Mark Costa and this is what I have so far:

-Ehrenhalber Gauleiters- (Honorary Gauleiters)
-1.-Herbert Albrecht- ( ? )- Gauleiter z.b.V. (for Special Duties) in the Reichsleitung der NSDAP
-2.-Andreas Bolek-
-3.-Walter Gottschalk-
-4.-Theo Habicht- (Appointed 1933)- Gauleiter z.b.V. to the Reichsleitung der NSDAP
-5.-Paul Hinkler- (Appointed January 19,1931)- Gauleiter z.D. (at Disposal) to the Reichsleitung der NSDAP
-6.-Josef Leopold-
-7.-Alfred Proksch- (Appointed July 1934)- Gauleiter (ehrenhalber)
-8.-Josef Adamczyk-
-9.-Bernhard Rust- ( ? )- Honorary/Retired
-10.-Wilhelm Kube- ( ? )- Honorary/Retired
-11.-Walther von Corswant- (Appointed 1931)- Gauleiter z.b.V. - (1938)- Gauleiter (ehrenhalber)
-12.-Hans Krebs- (April 26,1938)- Gauleiter der NSDAP (ehrenhalber)
-13.-Rudolf Jung- (June 15,1938)- Gauleiter der NSDAP (ehrenhalber)
-14.-Friedrich Ringhausen-
-15.-Alfred Frauenfeld-

Pitino

[Phil Nix]

Re above list;
Herbert Albrecht Gauleiter Mecklenberg 2.1930 - 31.1.31
Andreas Bolek Gauleiter (Austria) Oberosterreich 30.6.1928 - 1.8.1934
Josef Leopold Gauleiter (Austria) Niededrosterreich 29.8.1927 - 31.2.1938
Alfred Proksch Gauleiter (Austria) Oberosterreich 29.8.26 - 7.1928
Josef Adamczyk ((later name changed to Adams) Gauleiter Untergau Niederschlesien 18.3.1925 - 1.8.1931
Walter von Corswant Gauleiter Pommern 1.8.1927 - 1.4.1931
Friedrich Ringhausen Gauleiter Hessen Darmstadt 1.3.27 - 9.1.1931
Wilhelm Kube Gauleiter Ostmark 2.1.28 - 6.3.1933
Phil Nix

[Pitino]

Mark or anyone,
-I have come across the year 1934 as the year Andreas Bolek was appointed to an Honorary Gauleiter. To get more specific I have the date as July 25,1934. Do you know if this is correct?

Pitino

[Phil Nix]

Bolek was appointed 'Beurlabter Gauleiter der NSDAP 1.8.34 - 11.1937
Phil Nix

[Pitino]

Bolek was appointed 'Beurlabter Gauleiter der NSDAP 1.8.34 - 11.1937
Phil Nix

Phil,
-If Bolek was suspended for more than 3 years then when was his Honorary Gauleiter appointment date? Before or after the suspension?

Pitino

[Phil Nix]

He was Stellvertreter Gauleiter Gau Ober-Österreich 11.5.1926 - 30.6.28 Gauleiter Ober-Österreich 30.6.28 - 1.8.34 He was succeeded by Karl Scharizer
Phil Nix

[Pitino]

He was Stellvertreter Gauleiter Gau Ober-Österreich 11.5.1926 - 30.6.28 Gauleiter Ober-Österreich 30.6.28 - 1.8.34 He was succeeded by Karl Scharizer
Phil Nix

Phil,
-If Bolek was a Gauleiter from (June 30,1928-August 1,1934) and a Beurlaubter Gauleiter from (August 1,1934-November 1937) then his Honorary Gauleiter date would have to be after November 1937. More than likely it was in 1938 after the Anschluss (I am guessing). Thanks for the info!!!

Pitino

[Pitino]

-Who replaced Friedrich WK Linder as stellvertreter Gauleiter of Hessen-Nassau on March 15,1933 and after his second term in 1941?

-Stellvertretender Gauleiter von Hessen-Nassau- (Deputy Gauleiter of Gau Hessen-Nassau)
-(January 1,1933-March 15,1933)- Friedrich Wilhelm Karl Linder
-(March 15,1933-June 30,1933)- ?????
-(June 30,1933-1937)- Heinrich Reiner
-(July 1,1937-1941)- Friedrich Wilhelm Karl Linder
-(1941-May 1945)- ?????

Pitino

[Pitino]

-I have come across many sources that list Karl Linder's second term as Stellvertreter Gauleiter of Hessen Nassau lasting from (July 1,1937-May 1945) and not ending in 1941. Can anyone verify this for me? Hopefully that can clear up one of my questions for my above list of Stellvertreter Gauleiter's von Hessen-Nassau, but I still need to know who replaced Linder on March 15,1933 after his first term. Reiner took over June 30,1933 so there is about a 3 month window where I do not know who the Deputy Gauleiter of Hessen-Nassau was. If anyone can clear any of these questions up then please do so!!!!

Pitino

[Phil Nix]

Gauleitung Hessen-Nassau;
There were a number of changes in this Gau;
Hessen-Darmstadt formed 1.3.1927 - 1.1.1933
Hessen-Nassau-Süd formed 3.1925 - 1.1.1933 These two were combined and they became Hessen-Nassau 1.1.1933
There was a Gau Hessen-Nassau-Nord formed 4.1925 it became Kurhessen 1934
Stellv Gauleiter was Friedrich Linder (Hessen-Darmstadt) 1.7.27 - 16.8.32 succeeded by walter Heyse
"" " was Karl Linder (Hessen Nassau Süd) 1.4.1927 - 30.9.32
" " maybe Walter Heyse 1.1.33 - 1.6.33 followed by Karl Linder (Hessen-Nasssau) , Linder was succeeded by Heinrich Reiner
Hope this helps
Phil Nix

[Pitino]

Gauleitung Hessen-Nassau;
There were a number of changes in this Gau;
Hessen-Darmstadt formed 1.3.1927 - 1.1.1933
Hessen-Nassau-Süd formed 3.1925 - 1.1.1933 These two were combined and they became Hessen-Nassau 1.1.1933
There was a Gau Hessen-Nassau-Nord formed 4.1925 it became Kurhessen 1934
Stellv Gauleiter was Friedrich Linder (Hessen-Darmstadt) 1.7.27 - 16.8.32 succeeded by walter Heyse
"" " was Karl Linder (Hessen Nassau Süd) 1.4.1927 - 30.9.32
" " maybe Walter Heyse 1.1.33 - 1.6.33 followed by Karl Linder (Hessen-Nasssau) , Linder was succeeded by Heinrich Reiner
Hope this helps
Phil Nix

Phil,
-Thanks for the info!!!! This is the first time I have ever heard of this Walter Heyse individual. Maybe you are correct in his following Linder in 1933. I need to research this Heyse figure before I put him in my list. Thanks!!!

Pitino

[Pitino]

Phil,
After doing more research I think I have come up with the correct list of Stellvertreter Gauleiters von Hessen Nassau!!! I did a lot of looking into the man you mentioned,Walter Heyse. After looking at Heyse's Reichstag bios and other sources I learned that he never served as Stellvertreter Gauleiter for Hessen Nassau. He did however become Adjutant des Gauleiters Hessen Nassau und des Reichsstaathalters in Hessen on (June 1,1933). Heyse did serve as Stellvertreter Gauleiter for Hessen Darmstadt as you said. He also served as Gaugeschaftsfuhrer for Hessen-Darmstadt and Hessen-Nassau-Sud. As for my above list I only had some dates confused, but my order was correct. This source was a lot of help: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dettweiler/webdocs/e055.htmThis is what the correct list should look like:

-Stellvertreter Gauleiter von Hessen Nassau- (Deputy Gauleiter of Hessen Nassau)

-(January 1,1933)- Gau created after the merger of Hessen-Darmstadt and Hessen-Nassau-Sud

-(January 1,1933-March 15,1933)- Friedrich WK Linder
-(March 15,1933-June 30,1937)- Heinrich Reiner
-(July 1,1937-1945)- Friedrich WK Linder

Pitino

[Pitino]

- I have seen a source that listed Johannes Engel as Deputy Gauleiter to Gobbels in 1944. I thought Schach was Deputy to Gobbels in Berlin from (1933-1945). Is this completely incorrect or did Schach maybe serve in the war for a short period in (1944) and during the time he was away Engel took over his duties? Can anyone verify or completely debunk this for me so that I can go on to my next topic?

Pitino