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RAD-Generalarbeitsführer (future RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer) Dr. Wilhelm Decker. (Source: NARA)
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Hi Elwyn.
im sorry.I wasn't time uploading the RAD generals photos just now.....so here a go....
i hope u will like those pictures and u will knows the ID.
thank you.
regards
fakatona
im sorry.I wasn't time uploading the RAD generals photos just now.....so here a go....
i hope u will like those pictures and u will knows the ID.
thank you.
regards
fakatona
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Who is the RAD-Officer on the left, next to Dr. Decker & what award is he wearing around his neck?
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Hello,freddiefro wrote:Who is the RAD-Officer on the left, next to Dr. Decker & what award is he wearing around his neck?
Fred
It is Otto Lancelle with his PLM. He was also SA-Of. and Generalleutnant.
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Thank you very much, Andrey...I knew I recognized him!
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Hello,fakatona wrote:Hi Elwyn.
im sorry.I wasn't time uploading the RAD generals photos just now.....so here a go....
i hope u will like those pictures and u will knows the ID.
thank you.
regards
fakatona
1 and 4 photos: on my opinion, - it is low ranking RAD-officers.
2 photo: Dr. Waldemar Henrici RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer, unknown low ranking RAD-officer, Konstantin Hierl,
3 photo: Friedrich Köhler RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer.
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Would anyone happen to know who this RAD officer is? (Source NARA)
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Hello, Fred!
Again Lancelle and GAF Müller-Brandenburg in the background.
Best wishes
Ruslan
Again Lancelle and GAF Müller-Brandenburg in the background.
Best wishes
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Thank you, Ruslan. I thought it looked like Lancelle, but I didn't see a PLM.
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
( here might be the best place to ask)
Reconstructing the life of Robert Leitner ( 2.4.1906 - 20.1.1945 ), I reached a dead end, and there remain questions.
With the age of 37 (1.Jan.44), he was perhaps the youngest Generalarbeitsführer.
1932 /1933 He was cofounder of the FAD in Austria [private Document]
further stations were Munich, Berlin, Vienna, Linz, Hannover - nothing really exceptional there [private Documents + German & Austrian Archives]
( he was in France too - but no idea, when , where ( Paris included) and how long - perhaps this was only an official visit )
1.2.1940 he was sent to Danzig as "Führer z.b.V." [Bundesarchiv]
- presumably direct to the northern front ( there is an indication,but no document)
His stay in Finnland / Ice-Sea-Front is confirmed by several documents ( including his signature [58] in Dietl's Guestbook, here in this forum), but only for Jan.42 to May.42.
Question (1): Has anybody additional info's for 1940 - 1942 ?
Oct.1942 Reservekurlazarett Altheide [WAST] - ergo: Back from Lappland
Nov.1942 Bereichsstab 2/I ( = Danzig ?); [private document]
from Jan.1943 Prague [letters in Narodny Archiv, Prague] - April 1943 leading the Arbeitsgau in Prague [Bundesarchiv]
Question (2): General Dietl in Prague:
There were ( are still somewere?) several pictures: Dietl in Leitner's garden in Prague - both in Uniform ( one with Leitners head on the table, as if sleeping). They looked like press-photos, not private pics ( may have been taken by the RAD-press).
It must have been summertime ( garden), and between April 43 ( Leitners family moves to Prague) and June 44 ( Dietls death).
During the conversation Leitners wife was asked to leave the table - which was very unusual - but she knew: They talked about Concentration-Camps ( KZ ).
Dietl and Leitner very probably did not know each other before the war - so why this seemingly private(#) visit at this time of the war?
(#) this visit is unknown in the Archives - no mention in newspapers, nor pics.
Are there any infos somewhere ?
Question (3): Leitner died in an accident with a car. [official version] (+++)
When his coffin arrived in Prague, his widow insisted on the coffin to be opened.
Her clear statement: His wound was a shot in the head.
If he was shot / shot himself, it looks like prearranged: The messages to Prague quite soon after his death communicated the car-accident version [Archiv Prague].
What happened , and why ?
Perhaps there is some knowledge somewhere? ( strange things sometimes do happen)
I add the three pictures, I had ( dates unknown, + 1 from Bundesarchiv), before I met a very helpful member of this forum and got a lot more ( these are not public - so no publishing them here),
and there are some pics ( including his funeral) in Fotobanka CTK at http://multimedia.ctk.cz/cs/foto - I do not know, whether I would violate regulations ( Copyright ... ) by putting them here ( eg. F201405120361801 - 03.04.1944 - the person behind Hierl, or F201405260495701 - 13.05.1944 , F201401270648301 - 31.08.1943 )
Bundesarchiv / Text on the backside:
"Deutscher Tag" in Kladno (Protektorat Böhmen-Mähren) / Mitte des Bildes: Gen.Maj.Thams lks von ihm Leitner Oberstarbeitsführer der Führer des Arbeitsgaues XXXVIII Böhmen-Mähren / Reichsarbeitsdienstleitung - Presse- Bildstelle, Kriegsberichter Otf.[Obertruppführer] F. Barthold / 23.Juli 1943
regards
SANDB
(+++) two further versions about his death:
US-Propaganda ["Nachrichten für die Truppe", 287 - 1/45 ]: The funeral was with an empty coffin - he was in Spain, on his way to Argentina /// BBC : He was killed by an assassination [private information]
( here might be the best place to ask)
Reconstructing the life of Robert Leitner ( 2.4.1906 - 20.1.1945 ), I reached a dead end, and there remain questions.
With the age of 37 (1.Jan.44), he was perhaps the youngest Generalarbeitsführer.
1932 /1933 He was cofounder of the FAD in Austria [private Document]
further stations were Munich, Berlin, Vienna, Linz, Hannover - nothing really exceptional there [private Documents + German & Austrian Archives]
( he was in France too - but no idea, when , where ( Paris included) and how long - perhaps this was only an official visit )
1.2.1940 he was sent to Danzig as "Führer z.b.V." [Bundesarchiv]
- presumably direct to the northern front ( there is an indication,but no document)
His stay in Finnland / Ice-Sea-Front is confirmed by several documents ( including his signature [58] in Dietl's Guestbook, here in this forum), but only for Jan.42 to May.42.
Question (1): Has anybody additional info's for 1940 - 1942 ?
Oct.1942 Reservekurlazarett Altheide [WAST] - ergo: Back from Lappland
Nov.1942 Bereichsstab 2/I ( = Danzig ?); [private document]
from Jan.1943 Prague [letters in Narodny Archiv, Prague] - April 1943 leading the Arbeitsgau in Prague [Bundesarchiv]
Question (2): General Dietl in Prague:
There were ( are still somewere?) several pictures: Dietl in Leitner's garden in Prague - both in Uniform ( one with Leitners head on the table, as if sleeping). They looked like press-photos, not private pics ( may have been taken by the RAD-press).
It must have been summertime ( garden), and between April 43 ( Leitners family moves to Prague) and June 44 ( Dietls death).
During the conversation Leitners wife was asked to leave the table - which was very unusual - but she knew: They talked about Concentration-Camps ( KZ ).
Dietl and Leitner very probably did not know each other before the war - so why this seemingly private(#) visit at this time of the war?
(#) this visit is unknown in the Archives - no mention in newspapers, nor pics.
Are there any infos somewhere ?
Question (3): Leitner died in an accident with a car. [official version] (+++)
When his coffin arrived in Prague, his widow insisted on the coffin to be opened.
Her clear statement: His wound was a shot in the head.
If he was shot / shot himself, it looks like prearranged: The messages to Prague quite soon after his death communicated the car-accident version [Archiv Prague].
What happened , and why ?
Perhaps there is some knowledge somewhere? ( strange things sometimes do happen)
I add the three pictures, I had ( dates unknown, + 1 from Bundesarchiv), before I met a very helpful member of this forum and got a lot more ( these are not public - so no publishing them here),
and there are some pics ( including his funeral) in Fotobanka CTK at http://multimedia.ctk.cz/cs/foto - I do not know, whether I would violate regulations ( Copyright ... ) by putting them here ( eg. F201405120361801 - 03.04.1944 - the person behind Hierl, or F201405260495701 - 13.05.1944 , F201401270648301 - 31.08.1943 )
Bundesarchiv / Text on the backside:
"Deutscher Tag" in Kladno (Protektorat Böhmen-Mähren) / Mitte des Bildes: Gen.Maj.Thams lks von ihm Leitner Oberstarbeitsführer der Führer des Arbeitsgaues XXXVIII Böhmen-Mähren / Reichsarbeitsdienstleitung - Presse- Bildstelle, Kriegsberichter Otf.[Obertruppführer] F. Barthold / 23.Juli 1943
regards
SANDB
(+++) two further versions about his death:
US-Propaganda ["Nachrichten für die Truppe", 287 - 1/45 ]: The funeral was with an empty coffin - he was in Spain, on his way to Argentina /// BBC : He was killed by an assassination [private information]
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115 RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr. Waldemar Henrici
116 RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr.phil. Wilhelm Decker
117 (middle) RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr.Ing. Hermann Wagner
Andrey.
116 RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr.phil. Wilhelm Decker
117 (middle) RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr.Ing. Hermann Wagner
Andrey.
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Andrey wrote:115 RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr. Waldemar Henrici
116 RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr.phil. Wilhelm Decker
117 (middle) RAD-Obergeneralarbeitsführer Dr.Ing. Hermann Wagner
Andrey.
Thank you Andrey!
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