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Goebbels smokes Hitler??

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Post by J. Duncan » 24 Jan 2009, 23:15

Goebbels smoking a cigareete right next to hitler...I thought Hitler hated smoking?
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Post by Steve Hoog » 25 Jan 2009, 00:08

He did and I'm surprised; first I had no idea the Dr. smoked, and then of course like you in front of AH.


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Post by J. Duncan » 25 Jan 2009, 00:37

I know what you mean...you would think his chief lieutenants would surely know better and refrain in his presence. I was very surprised by this photo..Hitler was also Chancellor when this was taken so this makes it even more surprising (it's not a matter of "the early years" or a snapshot of a scene in some smoke-filled beer hall - this was taken in the old Reichschancellery)....I already knew Goebbels smoked cigarettes as there are many photos of the little doctor indulging his habit, but right next to Hitler??? Supposedly unheard of but the photo says differently. Maybe the reports that Hitler banned smoking in his presence was an exaggeration or maybe even a myth, although many servants and orderlies of the Berghof attest that this was so. We know Hitler hated smoking and drinking as institutions but it seems he did not deprive his collaborators of their habits - for instance, he tolerated Robert Ley's alcoholism and outlandish behavior for years (even to the point of calling Ley his "greatest idealist").

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Post by Roderick » 25 Jan 2009, 04:07

Herr Hitler had his contradictions...
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Post by Steve Hoog » 25 Jan 2009, 05:03

He may have tolerated it in the begining, who knows for sure.

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hitler smoked

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Post by Simon K » 25 Jan 2009, 05:10

Didnt you know hitler smoked? He was not smoking by then. Check out TT, if you can stomach it.

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Post by Helly Angel » 25 Jan 2009, 05:59

JG didn´t smoke.

He´s not smoking in this photo, he have the fingers in his mouth.

He looks likes a cigarrette but if you pay attention is just the reflection from the glass of the picture on the wall.

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Post by Steve Hoog » 25 Jan 2009, 11:39

I might agree, one finger does look like it's in his mouth.

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Post by Phil Nix » 25 Jan 2009, 12:53

Who is the man on the right?
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Post by Igor Karpov » 25 Jan 2009, 12:55

Phil Nix wrote:Who is the man on the right?
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Dear Phil, it's Julius Schaub and, of course, Julius Schreck. Also we can see Rudolf Hess and Sepp Dietrich.

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Post by Halfdan S. » 25 Jan 2009, 13:07

You also see Dr. Hans Heinrich Lammers and Prinz August Wilhelm.

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Post by Max Williams » 25 Jan 2009, 13:35

The full list, left to right is:
Arthur Kannenberg, Josef Goebbels, AH, Rudolf Hess, Josef Dietrich, Hans Lammers, Jakob Werlin, Julius Schaub, August Wilhelm and Julius Schreck.
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Post by Peter H » 26 Jan 2009, 06:43

Did Goebbels smoke?

Found this but no sources given:

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... ioncode=22
Hitler himself, who attributed Nazi (and therefore German) triumphs to the fact that he had quit smoking, prohibited Eva Braun from smoking in his presence and continually chided Goring for the latter's ever-present cigar. (Goebbels, an erstwhile chain smoker, succeeded in kicking the habit in 1944, only to succumb again after the Stauffenberg plot nearly took the Fuhrer's life that July.)
Witness accounts in Hitler's Death,Andrew Roberts(ed),has Goebbels and his wife smoking,after the death of Hitler,just before their only demise.

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Post by Simon K » 26 Jan 2009, 07:11

No its a cigarette all right. it appears to be just after a dinner or buffet.

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Post by J. Duncan » 26 Jan 2009, 11:00

I do not know how to post you-tube videos yet, but if you go to you-tube and type in "Rarest document on you tube? 1939 Hitler and friends" you will find a short video from Eva Braun's films at the Berghof which shows Goebbels smoking a cigarette at approx. 1:21 time of the video.

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