Was Fritz Todt SS member? [NO]

Discussions on all aspects of the NSDAP, the other party organizations and the government. Hosted by Michael Miller & Igor Karpov.
Mark Costa
Member
Posts: 2775
Joined: 26 Jul 2002, 18:41
Location: USA

#16

Post by Mark Costa » 26 May 2003, 02:44

The first photo shown is definately not of Todt's funeral no matter what Detlev says. The Todt funeral was a major affair held at the Reichschancellery in Berlin and his coffin was carried on gun carriage with luftwafe, Army and SS generals as honorary pall bearers to include Reichsleiter Karl Fiehler. The first photo shown has an honor guard of DAF members wearing pre-wartime uniforms. This photo was taken pre-1939 and couldn't possibly be of Todt's funeral.

Mark Costa

User avatar
Jaensch-AK
Member
Posts: 8
Joined: 01 Mar 2003, 04:13
Location: Maryland, USA

#17

Post by Jaensch-AK » 26 May 2003, 06:30

Thanks Mark- the procession does look a bit small for someone of Todts importance.
Rob


User avatar
Georges JEROME
Financial supporter
Posts: 9962
Joined: 10 Mar 2002, 14:04
Location: France
Contact:

Meeting at Wien

#18

Post by Georges JEROME » 27 May 2003, 00:54

Meeting at Wien

first left seems to be Scharizer

far right seems to be Gauleiter Klausner (SS uniform)

Georges

User avatar
Georges JEROME
Financial supporter
Posts: 9962
Joined: 10 Mar 2002, 14:04
Location: France
Contact:

Meeting at Wien

#19

Post by Georges JEROME » 27 May 2003, 00:58

Meeting at Wien

first left seems to be Scharizer

far right seems to be Gauleiter Klausner (SS uniform)

Georges

User avatar
Jimmy
Member
Posts: 57
Joined: 06 Jul 2005, 23:28
Location: Dundee, Bonnie Scotland

#20

Post by Jimmy » 19 Dec 2005, 01:04

Jaensch-AK wrote:Hi -

Here's a Hoffmann postcard of Dr. Todt as well as a press photo of him speaking at a meeting in Vienna wearing a Luftwaffe uniform.

Best,
Rob
Image
Image

why dosn't this pic come up???? i am interested in seeing it as von Schirach is in it...........

User avatar
R.M. Schultz
Member
Posts: 3062
Joined: 05 Feb 2003, 04:44
Location: Chicago
Contact:

#21

Post by R.M. Schultz » 03 Feb 2006, 21:07

Was Todt particularly anti-Semitic?

Max Williams
Member
Posts: 11158
Joined: 04 Feb 2003, 17:57
Location: South UK

#22

Post by Max Williams » 04 Feb 2006, 11:12

Jimmy wrote:
Jaensch-AK wrote:Hi -

Here's a Hoffmann postcard of Dr. Todt as well as a press photo of him speaking at a meeting in Vienna wearing a Luftwaffe uniform.

Best,
Rob
Image
Image

why dosn't this pic come up???? i am interested in seeing it as von Schirach is in it...........
For some reason, I can't see any of these photos also.
Max.

User avatar
willi_klingel
Member
Posts: 122
Joined: 26 Jun 2011, 23:23
Location: Canada

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#23

Post by willi_klingel » 12 Feb 2012, 21:46

Hello everybody : I recently found a book in German entitled " Fritz Todt - Baumeister des Dritten Reich" The book is in German which makes it a little hard going for me. I am aware of that there was a strong suspicion that the plane crash resulting in Todt's death was not an accident. Milch is quoted in the book saying that sabotage was possible but not proven. Hans Baur is said to have told Hitler that the plane came from a Luftwaffe unit at the front and that each machine was equipped with a 'Flugzeugzerstörer' which was a 1 kg of Dynamite in a small casing which could be actived by a pull ring. This was provided to prevent sensitive documents falling into enemy hands. By inference, Baur seems to be suggesting that this is what probably caused the crash. An examination of the wreckage did not reveal any deficiences and also the weather was not a factor although the pilot had chosen not to land with a tailwind.
This is the first that I have heard of the 'Flugzeugzestörer Kästchen' although the concept does not surprize me. Were these devices commonly carried by the Luftwaffe and does anyone have information about them being used to prevent documents falling into the wrong hands? I know that there were many instances of crews on both sides trying to destroy their downed aircraft by fire. It would be interesting to see a picture of such a device. In the book is a picture of Todts Landhaus in Hintersee bei Berchtesgarten - does anyone know if this house is still standing ?
Cheers
Willi K
Scan10128.JPG

User avatar
willi_klingel
Member
Posts: 122
Joined: 26 Jun 2011, 23:23
Location: Canada

Re:Fritz Todt Funeral Procession

#24

Post by willi_klingel » 12 Feb 2012, 22:04

Scan10129.JPG
Scan10129.JPG (91.47 KiB) Viewed 647 times
A picture of Todt's funeral procession taken from Franz W.Seidlers book published in 1986 by Herbig

User avatar
Geoff Walden
Member
Posts: 2617
Joined: 29 Mar 2002, 15:50
Location: South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Contact:

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#25

Post by Geoff Walden » 13 Feb 2012, 10:56

willi_klingel wrote:In the book is a picture of Todts Landhaus in Hintersee bei Berchtesgarten - does anyone know if this house is still standing ?
Hi Willi,

Yes, the Todt house at Hintersee is still there. It is the "Altes Zollhaus," or Old Customs House.

It is shown about halfway down on this page - http://www.thirdreichruins.com/miscbldgs3.htm

J. Duncan
Member
Posts: 3776
Joined: 02 Aug 2008, 11:22

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#26

Post by J. Duncan » 13 Feb 2012, 11:54

Excellent photos Geoff...I have visited your website countless times and must have missed these. I 100% agree that the photos / films of the naked bather are of Gretl, not Eva.
Getting back to Todt, how far was his chalet from the Berghof (or the other homes of interest such as Speer's, Bormann's, or Goering's)? Were these all located off of the same road?

User avatar
Geoff Walden
Member
Posts: 2617
Joined: 29 Mar 2002, 15:50
Location: South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Contact:

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#27

Post by Geoff Walden » 13 Feb 2012, 13:05

The Todt house at Hintersee is about 18 km from the Berghof (so Google Maps tells me :milwink: - past the other side of Berchtesgaden, and on past Ramsau (so not close at all, really).

The other houses were all on the Obersalzberg, off the same road (main road going up there out of Berchtesgaden). Bormann's house overlooked the Berghof, and Göring's house was just over the hill (sort of beyond Bormann's house - Bormann made sure he was the closest). Speer's house is a little further away, but only about 1 km distant. It's off the same road, down the road a short distance toward Berchtesgaden.

User avatar
Wessel
Member
Posts: 318
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 22:50
Location: Scotland

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#28

Post by Wessel » 13 Feb 2012, 22:54

Here are some photos from the 1943 book, 'Fritz Todt. Der Mensch, Der Ingenieur, Der Nationalsozialist'. The title page gives all his posts and ranks and there is no mention of SS membership.
Attachments
DSC04027.JPG
DSC04027.JPG (35.64 KiB) Viewed 599 times

User avatar
Wessel
Member
Posts: 318
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 22:50
Location: Scotland

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#29

Post by Wessel » 13 Feb 2012, 22:56

Leutnant Fritz Todt 1917.
Attachments
DSC04028.JPG
DSC04028.JPG (25.45 KiB) Viewed 599 times

User avatar
Wessel
Member
Posts: 318
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 22:50
Location: Scotland

Re: Was Fritz Todt SS member?

#30

Post by Wessel » 13 Feb 2012, 22:58

The funeral in der Wilhelmstrasse and the Fuhrer's wreath.
Attachments
DSC04029.JPG
DSC04029.JPG (141.87 KiB) Viewed 598 times

Post Reply

Return to “NSDAP, other party organizations & Government”