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Re: Aktion T4

Postby Grisu on 03 Feb 2009 21:36

On Pfannmüller, see also Ernst Klee, Was sie taten - Was sie wurden. Ärzte, Juristen und andere Beteiligte am Kranken- oder Judenmord, Frankfurt/M. 1986 (my reprint 1992):

On p. 130 Klee writes briefly on children's departments, with an endnote on p. 310. There Klee gives a brief summary of Pfannmüller's story up to 1951: According to this, Pfannmüller was one of the strictest evaluators of ill children, did refer to patients as "Fleischklumpen" '(chunks of flesh'), and - contrary to what Michael's earlier source says - was sentenced to 5 yrs. imprisonment on 15 March 1951 (although it is not certain whether he served this sentence or not). The sources for Klee are testimonies (including Pfannmüller's own) in files of several post-war lawsuits. More references to Pfannberger on pp. 192 (text) and 327 (endnote).
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Re: Aktion T4

Postby goofy on 22 Aug 2009 18:45

Dr. Erwin Jekelius was until the end of 1941 director of the Spiegelgrund clinic and coordinator of Operation T4 in Vienna.
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Postby goofy on 22 Aug 2009 18:48

Dr. Jekelius post war photo - died in a Soviet prison in 1952.
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Postby goofy on 22 Aug 2009 18:55

Professor of anatomy Eduard Pernkopf, new provisional dean of the Medical Faculty of the University of Vienna, opens his lecture in SA uniform.
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Postby goofy on 22 Aug 2009 19:10

Deportation buses
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Postby goofy on 22 Aug 2009 19:17

NSDAP-Parteikarte von Hackenholt
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Re: Aktion T4

Postby David Thompson on 10 Jul 2010 20:48

Thanks, Jonathan.
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Postby michael mills on 15 Jul 2010 02:52

With regard to Jekelius, it should be pointed out that "denial-fighters" used to claim that Dr Jekelius was on the transport of Jewish deportees from Berlin that arrived at Riga on 29 November 1941 and was immediately massacred at Rumbula along with the Jews from the Riga Ghetto.

They claimed that the presence of Dr Jekelius on that transport, and his allegedly being the son of Molotov, was the reason for Himmler's telephone call to Heydrich on 30 November, ordering "no destruction" of the transport.

Now that the identity and role of Dr Jekelius has become better known, the above claim by the "denial fighters" has apparently been quietly dropped.

Indeed there was a reference to a Dr Jekelius in Himmler's diary of telephone calls, immediately below the record of his order "Judentransport aus Berlin, keine Vernichtung", but it is obvious that the reference was to a different matter, entirely unrelated to the instruction to Heydrich concerning the transport of Jewish deportees.

Nevertheless, for quite some time, the "denial fighters" tried to make a connection between the notations "Judentransport aus Berlin" and "Dr Jekelius", in an effort to prove that Himmler's order to Heydrich had been an exception, based on the presence of a particular person on the transport that Himmler wanted preserved because he was allegedly the son of Molotov.
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Re: Aktion T4

Postby David Thompson on 15 Jul 2010 03:29

For interested readers -- Earlier discussions of Dr. Jekelius in two other threads can be seen beginning at:

viewtopic.php?p=723919#p723919 and viewtopic.php?p=773364#p773364

As for "denial fighters," and how, if at all, they differ from intelligent and informed persons, stayed tuned. Michael may yet explain the term. Judging from a Google search, the expression appears to have originated last year (Mar 2009) as a description of contemporary Russian combat aircraft, though it is possible that the Google engine may not have picked up earlier references to the phrase:

http://acecombatskies.com/index.php?sho ... ded&start=
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