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Planned Reichskommissariats?

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Post by Petterson » 26 Apr 2004, 09:09

The fact is that nazis established two Reichskommissariats?

But did they plan two Reichskomissariats more in Soviet Union?

I have found a clue about Reichskomissariats called Moskau and Kaukasien. For example Jürgen Stroop would became SS and Police leader for Kaukasien.

This is not "What if" -fiction. Jürgen Stroop himself told about this Kaukasien-plan to Moczarski Kazimierz in Polish prison after the war. Moczarski Kazimierz told this in his book "Rozmowy z katem". According that book SS and Police leader of Moscow would macame Erich von dem Bach-Zalewski. But is this source believable?

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Post by WojtekK » 26 Apr 2004, 10:52

Hi Petterson !

I'm Pole, I know this very good book. All, what told Stroop to Moczarski were true.

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Post by Phil Nix » 26 Apr 2004, 13:45

There were two further Reichskommissariet created covering Moscow and the Caucasus Arno Schicktanz (not sure of spelling) was appointed to Caucasus post and I believe Franz Six was to have had Moscow post but neither territory were handed over to to civil authorities. Gerret Korsemann was appointed HSSPF z.b.V. Kaukasien operating under Hochster SS PF Ukraine 1.6.42 - 21.3.43
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Post by Petterson » 26 Apr 2004, 16:09

I saw a map in one particular book some time ago. I don`t remember the name of that book.

But Reichskommissariat Moskau would have been larger than city of Moscow and it`s region. The Eastern borderline would have been the Ural mountains. The Northern borderline would have been the White sea and Finnish border. In the West of course Reichskomissariat Ostland and in the South river of Volga.

But there were also pictures about so called Reichskomissariat Ural??? That would have been Southern part of the Ural Mountains containing for example city of Orenburg and Ufa.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 27 Apr 2004, 01:11

Hi Petterson,

book you speak about is Alexander Dallin Deutsche Herrschaft in Russland 1958

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Post by Petterson » 27 Apr 2004, 08:11

JEROME Georges wrote:Hi Petterson,

book you speak about is Alexander Dallin Deutsche Herrschaft in Russland 1958
I am not sure. As far as I remember that book was about history of Russian.

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Post by michael mills » 29 Apr 2004, 23:45

Arno Schicktanz (not sure of spelling)
Schickedanz.

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Post by AlainDucasse » 07 Aug 2014, 14:59

Here are the list of planned "Reichkommissariate" and a corresponding map of the "Großgermanisches Reich Deutscher Nation":

Reichskommissariat Moskowien
Reichskommissariat Kaukasien
Reichskommissait Turkestan
Reichskommissariat Don-Wolga (planning stopped becuase it became part of RK Ukraine)
Reichskommissariat Burgund (SS-Staat Burgund)
Reichskommissariat Ural
Reichskommissariat West-Sibirien
Reichskommissariat West-Nordland
Reichskommissariat Ost-Nordland
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Großgermanisches Reich Deutscher Nation 1963.jpg
Großgermanisches Reich Deutscher Nation 1963

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Post by Georges JEROME » 11 Aug 2014, 15:57

Rosenberg wanted a RK Turkestan but A.H. refused wanted to limit to Europe boundaries
RK Don Wolga was not agreed by AH and areas with split into RKU and project RK Kaukasien
the 3 last were evocated at Nuremberg trial.

(source Dallin Russia Under german rules).

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Post by Lanternentraeger » 13 Sep 2014, 07:31

Here's an early version of Rosenberg's vision for Generalplan Ost.

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