Hitler'S Golden Party Badge...Fact or...

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Hitler'S Golden Party Badge...Fact or...

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Post by tobstein » 18 May 2005, 20:50

Good evening ev'rybody,

I just saw Eichinger's movie Der Untergang...The Fall (?).

In the movie Hitler gave his Golden Party Badge as a present to Magda Goebbels some hours before he killed himself.
Is this fact or just a movie scene?

And when it's a fact what happened to the Badge when Magda Goebbels killed herself? Who took care of the Badge?
Which way took it till today...and where is it today?

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Post by Daniel L » 18 May 2005, 20:58

It is a fact and has been testified by numerous survivors. I think it is in Moscow today if I remember correctly.

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Post by Miha Grcar » 18 May 2005, 21:01

I got the same info as Daniel.

best,
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Post by tobstein » 18 May 2005, 21:27

Thanx for your answers....

one more question:

On this website http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutfahne you'll find the information that the blood flag was bought by a german collector some years ago. Do you think that this is fact...I always read in this forum that the blood flag was destryed during an allied bombing over Munich.

Blutfahne war die offizielle Bezeichnung für die diejenige Hakenkreuzfahne, die beim Marsch auf die Feldherrnhalle in München am 9. November 1923 von den Anhängern Hitlers mitgeführt wurde.

In Folge des Schießbefehls der bayrischen Polizei gab es 16 Tote unter Hitlers Anhängern, unter anderem wurde auch der Fahnenträger und SA-Mann Heinrich Trambaur erschossen. Sein Blut spritzte auf die Fahne. So wurde sie zum Kultgegenstand der NSDAP. Heute (2004) ist sie bei einem Sammler aus Norddeutschland in Privatbesitz.

Notice the last sentence: Today (2004) the Blood Flag is owned by a private collector in North Germany.


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#5

Post by Karl » 19 May 2005, 09:33

I expect the Versailles train to turn up soon too. :)

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Post by Tom Houlihan » 19 May 2005, 09:37

Karl, if you're referring to the "Compiegne Carriage," that was destroyed.

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Post by Karl » 19 May 2005, 09:46

Yes, and so was the blood flag.

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Post by Max Williams » 19 May 2005, 15:22

Karl wrote:Yes, and so was the blood flag.
No it wasn't.
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Post by ihoyos » 19 May 2005, 16:13

As far I know, the blood flag still exist. Just because was never seen again doesnt mean was destroyed.
The famous brown house was dammaged for the air raids, but not full destroyed, many artifacts of that house were looted and the end of the war.
Gaulaitier of Munich Paul Giesler, took with him, lots of doccuments and artifacts and the end of the war. He flee to Berchtesgaden where he comites suicide with his wife. He never knew he was appointed for Hitler 4th man of the whole Reich ( just behind Doenitz, Goebbles, and Hanke). The case of Giesler is very interesting because he was in the list of the people to be killed in 1934 in the SA purge, he save his life just in the last minutes, but was expelled from the SA.
Any research about the fate of the Blood flag, in my opinion must be start with Giesler who was the person in charge of it cusstody, as a maximun nazi chief in Munich in 1945.
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Post by Karl » 19 May 2005, 18:16

Max, have you seen it?

ihoyos, do you know anything else about it?

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Post by Max Williams » 19 May 2005, 18:50

I have very reliable evidence the flag rests in a wealthy collector's private collection in Germany.
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Post by Chuck_jm » 19 May 2005, 19:19

Germany??? i read somewhere it rests in a wealthy collector's private collection but in Russia but i really don´t know much about this subject.
Must be quite a collector.

Chuck/

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#13

Post by ihoyos » 19 May 2005, 19:32

The post card photo show in 1947 the brown house still standing, semi ruined ( righ sideof the photo)

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#14

Post by Karl » 19 May 2005, 19:54

Well Gentlemen, it is probably an understatement when I say that this news has left me more then a little stunned.

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#15

Post by Karl » 20 May 2005, 22:03

So um where in Germany is it reputedly to be?

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