Snowy Obersalzberg

[Max Williams]

Here is a festive Hoffmann photo of Hitler and some of his close allies. I believe it is 1939 at the Berghof, but can't be certain.
R to L: Morell, Bouhler, Göring, Bormann, AH, Esser, ? (poss. Bodenschatz), ? (poss. Schmundt) , ? (poss. Brandt).
Max.


Photo deleted as a result of previous dishonest use of my photos posted on this forum. Sorry.
Max.

[Michael Miller]

A wonderful photo! Thanks for sharing it. I think it fits a little better on the NSDAP side, however, so I've transferred it there (here).

~ Mike

[Max Williams]

I thought I had posted it on the NSDAP forum. Either I'm going mad or there's something wrong with the posting button.
Max.

[Michael Miller]

The posting button is fine, therefore...


~ Mike

[Mark Costa]

Max:

I am going to throw something out here for your opinion. Instead of Goering, could that be Werlin of Mercedes Benz fame etc ? And the guy next to Esser --could that be Speer ???

Mark

[vazel]

oh wow, that is a very nice shot.

[Michael Miller]

I think Mark is right.

These photos of SS-Oberführer Jakob Werlin are from the Bayerische Staatsbibliothek website.

Best,
~ Mike

[Helly Angel]

I agree with Mark and Michael.

Sorry, my photo have not relation but I love these photos under the snow, here I want a post a colaboration taken in the IV Olympische Winterspiele in 1936 in Garmish-Partenkirchen, since the L to R: Frick, Ley and Hitler.

[Max Williams]

No...(here we go again)...I still say Göring. For a start it looks more like Göring and next...why would Werlin be there with all the other top Nazis when Göring would? It's obviously the inner circle.
Mark could be right about Speer though.
Max.

[Michael Miller]

Well Esser wasn't really a member of the "inner circle" either, was he? Many photos in the BSB collection show Werlin hobnobbing with Hitler during the 1930's. Yes, it does look a bit like Göring in the first photo, but there is also a strong similarity to Werlin. Stronger, I think.
I've been wrong many times before, though, and acknowledge I could be wrong now.

~ Mike

[Max Williams]

Well Esser wasn't really a member of the "inner circle" either, was he? Many photos in the BSB collection show Werlin hobnobbing with Hitler during the 1930's. Yes, it does look a bit like Göring in the first photo, but there is also a strong similarity to Werlin. Stronger, I think.
I've been wrong many times before, though, and acknowledge I could be wrong now.

~ Mike

Mike,
We all make mistakes, but if that's not Göring then I'll give up Third Reich history. I know I can be stubborn at times, but I've never been more sure.
Esser could be considered a member of the inner circle. He was a regular visitor to the Berghof, even during the war. Hitler retained a personal attachment to him as an old fighter, but was not impressed by his organisational talents. That's why he never attained a higher post than State Secretary.
Max.

[Geoff Walden]

Max,

I also thought that was Jacob Werlin when I first looked at the photo. Some possible support for this - this photo may have been taken on the same occasion as the group photo showing the Berghof regulars in formal dress in the Berghof Great Room (this photo is in Eva Braun's photo albums in the US National Archives, RG 242-EB, Album 6, Photo 7). I believe this photo was taken on New Years Eve 1938/39. Interestingly, all of the following are seen in this photo: Morell, Bouhler, Bormann, Hitler, Schmundt, and Brandt. I don't believe Esser is in the photo, but his wife is. Speer is also in the photo. But Göring is NOT. This seems to be a match-up of more than coincidence between these two photos.

Geoff Walden

[Michael Miller]

Thanks for posting that, Geoff.

Werlin is visible just aft of Bouhler.

~ Mike

[Max Williams]

Geoff,
One problem with your assumption (and sorry, Mike, it's Göring) my photo was not taken on this occasion. Hitler is in uniform!
Max.

[Michael Miller]

Now that is a good point. AH is uniformed in Max's photo, so these are different occasions.
But I hope, Max, that you're not saying that's Göring in Geoff's photo. As for the first one- features just don't seem a match to those of Göring. Eyes appear smaller, nose sharper.

~ Mike