WWII Weapons And Equipment Still In Use

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Post by Feldwebel Schultz » 21 Dec 2006, 20:10

Here in Brazil,soldiers use in parades or training a brazilian/belgian version of the mauser k98 ,it seems with the k98 but have some diferences like the iron sight and the baionet holder under the barrel.I see photos of Bundeswehr using k98 in military parade.

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Post by Dave Bender » 24 Dec 2006, 15:21

Until recently there were some T-35/85 tanks. That tank design dates to 1944. I suspect that North Korea still has a few. Possibly some of the Arab nations, Serbia and Afganistan as well.

I think there as still some SKS carbines floating around. That weapon dates to 1945.

There are still a few M-1 carbines floating around in 3rd world insurgencies.

There may still be a few DC-3 aircraft in operational use.


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Post by panzerhan » 31 Dec 2006, 21:42

In the collapse of Yugoslavia,I am sure that I saw some Mg-34s in TV. Also in 1992,when Chechenya was fighting against Russia,again on TV, I saw a Chechen fighter with a WWII Wehrmacht steel helmet!

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Post by w9816 » 03 Feb 2007, 22:56

Harri wrote:WW II era weapons used (or still in the army stocks) in Finland:

- 105 mm howitzer m/37 (Finnish made Bofors design, modernized as 105 H 61-37)
These should be phased out by now. Some were given to Estonia, some scrapped and some sold to collectors (yes I got one...)

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Post by faf_476 » 07 Feb 2007, 15:51

In our country we are still using the F-86 Sabre aircraft, for flight training. But as the terrorist widely spread at the south, they are now using it (though this plane did not built after the end of the war, we are still using it.)

Also our Soldiers still using the M1 Garand and M14, in training and some tactic operations.

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Post by Kristian S. » 07 Feb 2007, 17:09

faf_476 wrote:In our country we are still using the F-86 Sabre aircraft, for flight training. But as the terrorist widely spread at the south, they are now using it (though this plane did not built after the end of the war, we are still using it.)

Also our Soldiers still using the M1 Garand and M14, in training and some tactic operations.
Wether the M14 nor the F-86 were used in WWII.

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Post by CardinalBaseball » 08 Feb 2007, 00:45

I'm not sure if this has been said, but I believe the US uses the same basic model for the .50 cal Browning machinegun, as does Germany (MG-3). Granted, they aren't exactly the same as the first version of course.

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Post by faf_476 » 19 Mar 2007, 16:29

Yes, even today 50. cal is widely used by the US forces. Esp. the Africa campaigns.
Thanks von Brockdorff-Ahlefeldt, I thought they were built after the war?

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Post by Kristian S. » 19 Mar 2007, 18:42

faf_476 wrote:Yes, even today 50. cal is widely used by the US forces. Esp. the Africa campaigns.
Thanks von Brockdorff-Ahlefeldt, I thought they were built after the war?
Yes, they were built and used AFTER the war. But this thread is about weapons of WWII used today. Sabre and Garand were used only post war.
OK? :wink:

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Post by JTV » 15 Apr 2007, 20:19

Animal wrote:I know that Germany still uses, or recently still used the MG-42 and the Walther pistol, and the British use a modified version of the Bren Gun, while the US still uses the Browning .50 caliber(soon to be phased out I believe). What other weapons, equipment, etc., from the WWII era remain in oficial use today(excluding guerillas and irregular forces)?


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The MG-42 based machinegun used world-wide (German military being one of the users) is MG-3. The two don't use same ammunition and there were also couple of other improvements.

As far as known Bren in 7.62 x 51 is also gone - replaced by newer weapons.

From these three only Browning .50 remains in large scale military use in rather unchanged form.

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Post by JTV » 15 Apr 2007, 20:39

ChristopherPerrien wrote:The Browning M2 .50 cal machine gun. Of course if you consider derivatives of WWII guns there are a bunch of Brownings. The Beretta 92F is derived from the Browning 9mm Hi power, the M240 is a FN/Mag and is nothing more than a belt fed version of the M1918! BAR. Besides Various Browning Mg's I suppose the AK 47 could be considered nothing more than a different caliber STG44.
Unfortunately I have to suggest that start using other sources than the ones, which gave you these ideas - almost all of them seem to be plain wrong. For example:

1. Beretta 92F is not directly related to Browning High Power and certainly not derived from it - I own both, so I am pretty familiar with them. Both use 9 x 19 Parabellum/Luger ammunition and have high capacity magazines, but the similarities end there. Beretta 92F has double-action trigger mechanism and locking system based to one first used P-38 / P-1 Walther. FN / Browning High Power has single action trigger mechanism and the typical "tilting barrel" locking mechanism based to Moses Browning's earlier designs (such as Colt 1911A1). In addition Browning is all steel, while Beretta has alunium frame and the two have very different outward appearance and safety arrangements.

2. AK-47 is copy of STG44 in different calibre. They are certainly related in concept level - both are assault rifles and Mihail Kalashnikov without doubt got ideas from STG44 while developing his AK-47. But while they are both gas-action weapons (as assault rifles tend to be) their actual bolt-arrangements are very different (AK-47 bolt and trigger mechanism could be considered related to ones used in M1 rifle and carbine).

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Post by kamehouse » 15 Apr 2007, 20:52

In the Imperial War Museum(London) there is a picture of a vietcong soldier with a MG34.
I always thought that north vietnam was equipped from Russia but it seems some german weapons were used too.
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Post by JTV » 15 Apr 2007, 20:52

Harri wrote:WW II era weapons used (or still in the army stocks) in Finland:

- 105 mm howitzer m/37 (Finnish made Bofors design, modernized as 105 H 61-37)
- 150 mm howitzer m/40 (German 15 cm sFH 18, modernized as 152 H 88-40)
- 152 mm howitzer m/37 (USSR ML-20, modernized as 152 H 88-37A)
- 122 mm canon m/31 (USSR A-19, modernized as 152 H 88-31)

- 81 mm various Tampella mortar models (standardized and modernized in the 1950's)
- 82 mm mortar (USSR, modernized as 82 Krh 36 RT)
- 120 mm Tampella m/40 mortar (120 Krh 40, I don't know if modernized at all?)
I'm not quite sure if 120 mm Soviet mortars are still in our stocks? Probably.

Also 9 mm m/31 "Suomi" SMGs have been used until these days (until 2000's). They were slightly modified in the 1950's for a new Swedish magazine type.
Most of these are getting scrapped right now - both old 152-mm howitzers (too heavy and too short range) and old mortars (most WW2-era mortars were modernised to increase their traverse post-WW2.) Some 105 H 61-37 may have still remain in warehouses (they were reserved for seperate batteries of local troops and I have not heard anything about scrapping them - their salvation might be that unlike more modern guns they are light enough to be towed by just about anything - any normal civilian truck or agricultural tractor will do). Suomi-submachineguns are pretty much gone also - FDF has been selling deactivated Suomi M/31 like no tomorrow for several years now and as it has little use for old submachineguns now that is has assault rifles intended for 500,000 men for wartime manpower reduced to 350,000.

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Post by faf_476 » 25 Apr 2007, 07:31

von Brockdorff-Ahlefeldt wrote:
faf_476 wrote:Garand were used only post war.
OK? :wink:
Yup, sorry for that, Garand? Post war years?
I don't think that was true?

Why did the screaming eagles used this weapon at operation overlord?

Any statement to prove this?

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Post by ante radnić-cro » 26 Jun 2007, 18:45

Dan W. wrote:Image

I wonder if any poorer countries somewhere in the world continue to use the K98?

Considering the plentiful supply of these weapons they are still readily available, many times the German markings were just filed off after WWII and they were put back into use into some nations respective army. You can always find a few of these, missing original markings, for sale at local gunshops.

Also, when I was deployed to Thailand in the 80's the Thai Air force was still flying DC-3's, I went flying in one and the nameplate had the manufacture date clearly listed as 1942.


they where used in croatian-serbian war like snipers-i got one :lol:

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