Serial killers during the Third Reich 1933-1945

[Panzermahn]

Hi,

Here is an interesting short note on a serial killer during the Third Reich. Scan is taken from Roger Boar & Nigell Blundell's The World's Most Infamous Murders, Chancellor Press 1990, page 10

Anyone got more info on this serial killer?

Thanks

[Marcus]

Here is an article about him: http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=2969

/Marcus

[Panzermahn]

Marcus

thanks for the link, I didn't knew it was fabrication..

Anyhow, anyone knew any serial killers existed during the reign of Third Reich? I know Fritz Kürten, Vampire of Düsseldorf but he was executed in the 20s before Hitler took power..

[nondescript handle]

[...]Anyhow, anyone knew any serial killers existed during the reign of Third Reich?[...]

Paul Ogorzow, the "S-Bahn-Mörder" (seven murders and several rapes 1940-1941)
Adolf Gustav Seefeld, "Onkel Tick-Tack" (19 murders 1933-1935)

Regards
Mark

[Panzermahn]

[...]Anyhow, anyone knew any serial killers existed during the reign of Third Reich?[...]

Paul Ogorzow, the "S-Bahn-Mörder" (seven murders and several rapes 1940-1941)
Adolf Gustav Seefeld, "Onkel Tick-Tack" (19 murders 1933-1935)

Regards
Mark

Als danke Mark!

You got any more info about these cases?

I wonder what is the perception of the German people at that time since serial killers existed even in a totalitarian state. Would it be plausible enough to deduced that the Third Reich was not that totalitarian as Bolshevik Russia in the 20s since I don't know if existed any serial killers during Lenin's and Stalin's reign.

[Musashi]

[...]Als danke Mark![...]

Als?
Did you mean also?

[PF]

Postscript
Paul Ogorzow
http://www.coldwarhistory.us/Cold_War/1 ... stand.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ogorzow

[wenty]

Looking at the statistics, there was actually comparitively few serial killers active in the period encompassing the reign of the Third Reich. Maybe even psychos had other things on their mind?

Cheers,
Adam.

[valpatrak]

Marcus

thanks for the link, I didn't knew it was fabrication..

Anyhow, anyone knew any serial killers existed during the reign of Third Reich? I know Fritz Kürten, Vampire of Düsseldorf but he was executed in the 20s before Hitler took power..

look here- http://murderpedia.org/country/germany.htm
female murderers also can be found by the same link.

[Stephanie625]

You got any more info about these cases?

I wonder what is the perception of the German people at that time since serial killers existed even in a totalitarian state. Would it be plausible enough to deduced that the Third Reich was not that totalitarian as Bolshevik Russia in the 20s since I don't know if existed any serial killers during Lenin's and Stalin's reign.

I am no psychologist, but common sense should tell you that abnormal personalities exist in all populations. Humans are the same anywhere you go, that of course there are Russian psychos!

What is funny, is the following stat, from WikiAnswers:

'With so many serial killers not identified, there can not be statistics showing the population of the world's serial killer. 76% of the world's serial killers are in America is a statistic based ongoing studies. The United States only has about seven percent of the world's population, but has been home to over 76% of its serial killers."

Now, a reasonable person might say, we're pretty transparent with our criminal stats.

But to assume that Nazi Germany was not *as* totalitarian as Soviet Russia, I think you are splitting hairs (why?). I have no DOUBT that Stalin would have come down as hard on his weirdo killers as Germany (or the USA)... One difference remains: they are not as transparent. That, I believe, is your difficulty. Perhaps look less, in your research, to convictions, and more to witness testimonies that have made it through that Cold War Iron Curtain.

[Stephanie625]

You want to understand crime and punishment.... My first novel was on Ancient Egypt. Punishment for such nonsense in that land was impalement, of the delicate variety which would have taken the arsehole 3 days to die. One can fit the stake delicately, imagine. The justice of the Pharaohs was swift, but nothing works better on the class of criminal miscreant (not the hungry robber, but the sicko) than a firm and terrifying punishment.

[von thoma]

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Convicted Third Reich serial killer Paul Ogorzow, in his Reichsbahn uniform.

[JochenP]

Any book stats articles or something about homicides criminal cases and police work in the Reich during 1933-1945?

[Truckman]

You got any more info about these cases?

Here's a book I've read on Paul Ogorzow...Serial killers have walked among us throughout history...One of the first I read about was these guys, Big and Little Harpe... ...Ben

[Sejanus]

I have read the book about serial killer Paul Ogorzow as well (https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Killer-Na ... 0425264149). I recall that the author showed that the investigation was hampered by the idea that an Aryan could not be responsible for such crimes. So time and investigate resources were being wasted looking in wrong directions (i.e. forced laborers, Jews) as the killings continued.

Aside from the political & totalitarian aspects unique to the Third Reich that influenced law enforcement, police work there was generally much the same as in other western countries of comparative size during the same period.