24. Armoured Train "Max"

[K.Kocjancic]

Does anyone have any info on this train? It was present in OZAK in Feb. '44.

Regards,
Klemen

[NagaSadow]

Formed: 01.03.1940 - April 1940
Dissolved: 02.10.1940
Reformed: 19.06.1941 - July 1941
Rebuilt to KSTN 1169x: February to December 1943
Destroyed: 16.01.1945
Dissolved: 27.01.1945

April/May 1940: Denmark
1941: Serbia
1942: Croatia
Early 1943: Bosnia / Croatia
February/December 1943: Germany
January 1944: Poland
February/July 1944: Italy
July 1944: Germany / France
August/September 1944: France
September 1944: Germany
October 1944/January 1945: Poland

Commanders:
Olt Friedrich Schlegel (March - October 1940)
Lt/Olt/Hptm Paul Budin (June 1941 - July 1943)
Hptm Eberhard Mertins (August 1943 - January 1944)
Olt Otto Bakheiser (February 1944 - January 1945)

February 1944:
2. - Arrival in Innsbruck
3. - Repair in Innsbruck
4.-6. - Innsbruck -> La Rotta
6. - Empoli
7. - Florence
8. - Fonglia then repair in Florence
11. - La Rotta
12. - Torre del Lago
13. - Viareggio
15. - Torre del Lago
17. - Gorizia
18. - Montesanto
19. - Cormons, S. Lucia
20. - S. Lucia, Piedicolle
21. - Cormons
23. - Mossa
24./25. - Mossa, Mörz
26. - Repair in Fiorentina
27./28. - Fiorentina, Roccastrada

Source:
Die Panzerzüge des Deutschen Reiches 1904-1945 by Wolfgang Sawodny

[K.Kocjancic]

Thank you very much!

Do you perhaps have info on the train itself (how many cars, weapons, men)?

Regards,
Klemen

[NagaSadow]

No problem


Weapons:
March 1940: 3x 7,5cm FK Skoda D 28, 24x MG 7/24(t)
June 1941: 2x 7,5cm FK Skoda D 28, 2x 2cm Flak 38, ?x 7,92mm MG 34
December 1943: 4x 10,5cm leFH 18M, 2x 2cm Flakvierling 38, 2x PzKpfw 38(t), ?x MG
November 1944: two Panzerjägerwagen IV with PzKpfw IV Turrets added

The infantry of the train had additional weapons (flamethrowers, grenadethrowers...), of course.

The crew (in February 1944) should have consisted of about 130~ men.

Source:
Die Panzerzüge des Deutschen Reiches 1904-1945 by Wolfgang Sawodny[/img]

[K.Kocjancic]

Thank you very much!

Regards,
Klemen

[NagaSadow]

BTW was "Max" the Nickname of the Train? There was a Streckenschutzzug (railroad protection train) named 'Max', but i've never heard of that name in connection with a Panzerzug.

[K.Kocjancic]

Apparently yes, according to other sources.

Once again, thanks!

Regards,
Klemen

[NagaSadow]

Thanks!

[kstdk]

Hello

Anything particular mentioned about the period april, may 1940 - for the time in Denmark?

There exists pictures of Panzerzug Nr. 23 and 24 in Denmark situated in Padborg, Kolding and Esbjerg in the timeperiod april may 1940.

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[NagaSadow]

April:
5. - Rehagen-Klausdorf to Bremen
8. - Bremen > Niebüll
9. - Niebüll > Tondern > Esbjerg > Ringköbing
10. - Ringköbing > Holstebro (stationed there until 27th May)
14. - Thyborön, Stoppestedt
16. - Oddesund
24. - Vemb
26. - Thisted

May
28. - Holstebro > Hamburg > Menden

[kstdk]

Hello

Thanks a lot....thats all locations right in my "Backyard" - will investigate more

Will have to buy that book too !!

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[kstdk]

Hello again

This goes for Panzerzug nr. 24 "Max", right!

Both Panzerzug nr. 23 and nr. 24 was in Denmark in 1940 - anything for Panzerzug nr. 23?

I think all the pictures that i have is of Panzerzug nr. 23 - but i am not sure, and want to find out

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[NagaSadow]

Not much...

Commanders:
unknown for Weserübung

Weapons:
2x 7,5cm FK Skoda D 28, 20x MG 7/24(t), 1x 2cm Flak 38

April 1940
8. - Bremen
9. - Flensburg to Frederica (to secure the Fünen-Bridge)

PZ 23 remained in Denmark until early June 1940.

[kstdk]

Hello

Thanks a lot - right - not much, but still interesting

Any idea where one can obtain more info on those two trains?

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[djehuty]

NagaSadow, could you please tell me the movements of Panzerzug 24 in Italy in July 1944 before its departure from OZAK? And, I know it's difficult, the movements of Panzerzug 73 in August?

Thanks