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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by carius » 23 Oct 2012, 08:29

Semovente (images from ebay.de)

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Sturm78 » 26 Oct 2012, 21:18

Hi all,

Not captured vehicles but....
To the right SPA38R and to the left Alfa Romeo, but What model? 430 or 800 ?? :?

Image from Ebay
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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by SIS 5 » 27 Oct 2012, 08:46

Hi Sturm 78,

the left truck is a Alfa Romeo type 800 RE.

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Franzl Rider » 28 Oct 2012, 20:40

German drivers training in Italy with Semovente L6 da 47/32 (770(i)). In one picture there is also (I believe) a Semovente M43 105/25 (853(i)). From ebay.
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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Oct 2012, 22:49

Bert wrote
the left truck is a Alfa Romeo type 800 RE
How is posible differenciate between both models?

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 29 Oct 2012, 11:12

Sturm78 wrote:
Bert wrote
the left truck is a Alfa Romeo type 800 RE
How is posible differenciate between both models?

Sturm78

I always believed that the only difference was the front axle assembly so without seeing that you can't. Of course these being none armoured things I am often mistaken.
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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by peeved » 29 Oct 2012, 15:33

Sturm78 wrote:
Bert wrote
the left truck is a Alfa Romeo type 800 RE
How is posible differenciate between both models?
As seen from the front, in the WWII photos I've witnessed the 430 Militare had a split bumper (solid post-war) and the lowest bar of the bush guard in front of the radiator grille was noticeably higher than the grille bottom while the 800 Militare had a solid bumper and the lowest bar about level with grille bottom.

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by SIS 5 » 29 Oct 2012, 16:01

Hi Markus,

thank You very much for Your excellent declaration how to differentiate the two types of Alfa Romeo trucks.

Here pics of these trucks out of the book "Historic Military Vehicles Directory" by Bart Vanderveen.

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by peeved » 29 Oct 2012, 18:57

Hi Bert,

And thanks for the pics. Especially the 430 RE is interesting since the bumper is neither the two-piece split type I've seen e.g. at http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7143/679 ... c26b97.jpg nor the simple post-war solid bumper http://www.trucksplanet.com/photo/alfa_ ... _13759.jpg

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Sturm78 » 26 Nov 2012, 15:02

Hi all,

Not a captured vehicle but.... :roll:

Does somebody any information about this vehicle? :?

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 27 Nov 2012, 16:36

I am reliably informed that it is a protype made by Fiat, based upon their TL37 but intended to tow the 47mm gun or the 20mm AA gun. The green paint job in the picture looks post-war to me, I'm also told the registration number is post-war.
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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Nov 2012, 16:51

Thanks Alan.

Do you know why this vehicle not entered in service?

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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 27 Nov 2012, 22:47

My "Italian Expert" tells me that while he doesn't know why they didn't produce it, the protype sat in the factory from 1938 to 1950 !
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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by Varadero » 20 Jan 2013, 15:39

Field with Italian armour rounded up by German paratroopers after Italian capitulation in 1943.
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Re: Captured Italian Vehicles in German Service

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Post by carius » 03 Apr 2013, 07:24

Fiats

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