SS StuG tactical shield ID
SS StuG tactical shield ID
Hello ,
Who can tell which tactical shield this is ? It's a screenshot of an SS StuG , you can see the skull on the man's side cap . Thanks
Who can tell which tactical shield this is ? It's a screenshot of an SS StuG , you can see the skull on the man's side cap . Thanks
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Re: SS StuG tactical shield ID
Because it is a StuG IV the emblem looks like the metal fist of Götz von Berlichen to me, of course that could be wishful thinking wanting to fit the emblem to the vehicle type !
Alan
Re: SS StuG tactical shield ID
It almost has to be that fist in some variant of it , here's another vague picture of it .
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Re: SS StuG tactical shield ID
Well, this is footage of a 17SS StuG IV in the first weeks after D-Day. As a result the GVB fist would be very logical. I'm still hoping to find a sharp picture one day so we can be 100% sure, but the fist would be a safe bet.
Here's a picture of a similar symbol on a PAK from the same division:
Here's a picture of a similar symbol on a PAK from the same division:
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The armoured fist was a sign of the "Götz von Berlichingen" division of the SS, but I'm not 100% sure. The writing on the howitzers shield is "Shitomir", a small town in Russia. Also called "Schissomir".
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I'm not sure I've made myself clear enough:tobi1418 wrote:The armoured fist was a sign of the "Götz von Berlichingen" division of the SS, but I'm not 100% sure. The writing on the howitzers shield is "Shitomir", a small town in Russia. Also called "Schissomir".
- the StuGIV in this thread is undoubtedly a 17SS GvB vehicle. The footage provides enough evidence for this: SS troops, location (Normandy), date (June 1944, wochenschau 28-06). The FJ troops from the same footage are a further indication as these units did fight in the same area.
- considering the marking and its location the PAK 40 is undoubtedly a 17SS gun. In fact this particular gun and Schitormir have been discussed before: http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/me ... 097521170/. Schitomir can be linked to 2SS Das Reich, and in turn that divsion had links with 17SS. This link to Das Reich (and may even the earlier SS-VT?) is illustrated in the same Wochenschau footage from June 1944: a non-com of 17SS can be seen wearing runes with a small '2'. (but I'm no expert on those collar patches, so please correct me if I'm wrong).