German horse-drawn wagons

[SIS 5]

Hi Adrian,

to Your first question: sorry, there is no similarity with the Af. 4 and Af. 12. Have a look and decide by yourself.
First drawings and two pics of the Af.4 (source: "Die bespannten Truppen der Wehrmacht" by Klaus Christian Richter).

Regards

Bert

[SIS 5]

Here the next pics of Af. 4 from this thread (sorry, without telling the one who posted).

[SIS 5]

And here pics of the Af. 12 from this thread.

Regards

Bert

[SIS 5]

Here more pics of the Af. 12.

Regards

Bert

[SIS 5]

Hi Adrian,

to Your other question: the ID on the light radio trailer as Nf.3. I´m relying on the ID by Wolfgang Fleischer in his book "Bespannte Fahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres bis 1945". He is working in the museum of military history in Dresden. He is an expert on horse drawn wagons.

In a few minutes I´ll post three pics of this wagon.

Regards

Bert

[SIS 5]

Here the pics of the Nf. 3-

Regards

Bert

[fliegerhorst]

Hi thanks Bert. That answers my questions very well. Once again thanks for your help

[fliegerhorst]

I know why now i thought they were similar. On Holgers site the Af. 4 is a picture of a Af. 12 is it not ?

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... af__4.html

[barbarossa28]

Hello Adrian,

Yes, the photo shows an Af. 12. My error. The side has been corrected.

Regards,

Holger.

[fliegerhorst]

Good to see even the best of us make mistakes

Have sat some new unknown horse vehicle types to me. My ignorance of horse types is very bad. Hope people able to I.D.

http://www.panzerarmee.com/?page_id=1862

[carius]

From ebay.de

George

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

German wagons ??

Image from historicalmedia website
Sturm78

[fliegerhorst]

A very intriguing photo, they look like cassions, however I do not know the type ? Anyone know more of this type

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Hf.7 sani wagons:

Image from historicalmedia website
Sturm78

[fliegerhorst]

Might have found the identity of the unknown wagons posted by sturm few photos back. Discovered a photo of the same limbers, this time with italian soldiers. Think it to be the 10 cm M. 14 Feldhaubitze limber/cassion in german and italian service the gun was reffered to as 10 cm leFH 14(ö) and 10 cm leFH 315(i). Im far from a horse drawn vehicles expert. Anyone else able to back this up ?