► Photothread: German trailers

[Luftflotte2]

Photo series of Sd.Ah.115 and Büssing-NAG Type 900 I think. June 1939.


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[Maxschnauzer]

Great pics, Luftflotte2! As you said, it's a B-N Type 900, an early model, an impressive and beautiful vehicle indeed.

[Leo Niehorster]

Great pics, luftflotte2, indeed. And important information. I always thought they only used the Faun 9000 (L900-D567) in the truck-borne tank battalions. { Panzer-Abteilung (Verlastet) }. What about the Büssing-NAG 801 and 802?

[Luftflotte2]

There is another photo of the Type 900 transporting tanks here: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/buessnag.htm

Only about 80 units were made, so I wonder if it was designed specifically for transporting tanks. Those units formed at the same time (1937?) that the Type 900 was built.

[Leo Niehorster]

Speculation:
The four light tank battalions (truck-borne) had 86 tanks (41×Pz-I and 42×Pz-II plus 3×command tanks) when they were planned. I figured 45 trucks and 43 trailers per battalion, although that could be off, as the corresponding KStN have not been located. Assuming I'm right, the B-N Type 900 would have been encountered in two of the four light truck-borne battalions. So, if the full authorized organization was implemented, 90× (not 80) H-B Type 90 should have been built — of course, that is assuming the Type 801 and 802* was not also issued. The other two battalions would have been equipped with the Faun 9-tonner.

* So what is the difference between Type 801 and 802? — Type 802 had a small cabin behind the drivers seat. Possibly Type 801 did not?

[peeved]

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Markus

[Maxschnauzer]

More excellent pics, Marcus, thanks.
Maybea little OT for the trailers thread but keeping w/ the subject at hand does anyone have any info or pics on the B-N 900A 6x6? I believe at least one prototype was built in 1937.

[Luftflotte2]

Max, I don't believe there is. I'm happy to be corrected however.

Leo, I think that is a good theory. Holger lists the Type 801/802 having a payload of 8.2-8.5 tonnes, but the Panzer II is 8.9(?) tonnes. So I feel it isn't a candidate for tank transporter. Also, I think the difference between the 801 and 802 is only engine displacement and horsepower.

Source:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/buessnag.htm
http://kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_engl ... g-nag.html

[Maxschnauzer]

Max, I don't believe there is. I'm happy to be corrected however.

Hi Luftlotte2,
My only source for the supposed 900A is http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/buessnag.htm which linked the comment

Büssing-NAG 900A, 1937, 9,5?-ton, 6x6, 6-cyl. diesel, 13539cc, 130hp, prototype(s?), 32k b/w photo

to the photo in my last post which shows a Type 900 with what appears to be a front axle differential.

[SIS 5]

Hi Max, hi Luftflotte,

here are two pics of the prototypes of the Büssing-NAG type 900 A (Allrad) (source of the pics: "Das Lastwagen-Album Büssing" by Bernd Regenberg). The comments to the pics:
first pic: Typ 900 bei der Wehrmacht; second pic: Prototyp eines Allrad-Dreiachsers.
But there is no more information about these protptypes. Sorry.
And in the other book: "Typenkompass Büssing Lastwagen 1903 - 1971" by Wolfgang H. Gebhardt there is only the information: "A cross-country version (Allradversion) was produced for the Wehrmacht only as a prototype."

Now to the differences between the 801 and 802:
type 801 with the petrol engine D 2 with 100/110 hp or with the diesel engine FD 6 with 105/110 hp or with the diesel engine GD 6 with 135/145 hp.
type 802 only with the diesel engine GD 6 with 135/145 hp (source Bernd Regenburg, look above).

Best regards

Bert

[Leo Niehorster]

Thank you gentlemen. It This is an informative thread for me.

[Leo Niehorster]

And in the other book: "Typenkompass Büssing Lastwagen 1903 - 1971" by Wolfgang H. Gebhardt there is only the information: "A cross-country version (Allradversion) was produced for the Wehrmacht only as a prototype."

Looking at the two pictures, these seem to be two Allrad versions. For example, note the windscreen, the roof of the cab, and the doors. These are different. So possibly more than one prototype?

[SIS 5]

Hi Leo,

for me the information from Wolfgang Gebhardt is not complete. You are right. These are two prototypes: one for the Wehrmacht and the second one for the commercial use. I understood Regenberg in this way. Obviously the dark-grey spider (Büssing-spider) on the radiator mask of the Wehrmacht truck and the silver spider of the commercial truck.

Best regards

Bert

[Maxschnauzer]

Hi Max, hi Luftflotte,

here are two pics of the prototypes of the Büssing-NAG type 900 A (Allrad) (source of the pics: "Das Lastwagen-Album Büssing" by Bernd Regenberg). The comments to the pics:
first pic: Typ 900 bei der Wehrmacht; second pic: Prototyp eines Allrad-Dreiachsers.
But there is no more information about these protptypes. Sorry.
And in the other book: "Typenkompass Büssing Lastwagen 1903 - 1971" by Wolfgang H. Gebhardt there is only the information: "A cross-country version (Allradversion) was produced for the Wehrmacht only as a prototype."

Best regards

Bert

Hello Bert, Leo and Luftflotte,
That's fantastic! Thanks very much, Bert. And thanks also to Leo and Luftflotte 2 for the informative comments on this very rare behemoth.

[Sturm78]

Bert wrote
sorry for my late answer, but I was away and then I was ill. To the question about the pontoon trailer (posted 28th August). It is a captured Czechoslavakian pontoon trailer, used by the Wehrmacht under the designation Brückengerät "T" (bridging equipment "T"). "T" is the abbreviation for the German word Tschechoslowakei.

Thank you very much, Bert

Regards Sturm78