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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by SIS 5 » 11 Nov 2010, 18:57

Hi Henning,

thank You very much for posting these pics of Borgward trucks. You know, I´m a fan of Borgward trucks. My question to the truck in the snow: could it be a dump truck of Borgward? For me it looks like.

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Bert

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by fireindi64 » 11 Nov 2010, 19:39

Hello Bertram

nice to read you , its a long time ago!

I think you are right. In my first look,I didnt notice the small details for a Borgward dump-truck!
I only saw one picture on a folder out of that time period with a dumper.

Do you get more pics with Borgward dumper?

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by SIS 5 » 12 Nov 2010, 17:52

Hallo Henning,

after looking for pics with Borgward dump trucks, I think I´ve found only one. I´ll post it here. What do You think about it?

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by fireindi64 » 12 Nov 2010, 19:16

Hi Bertram, for the second time :)

Yes I think its a dumper, but I prevere HL 2,5t . There are some details for this typ. I mark they on your pic.

please compare the details.

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by SIS 5 » 13 Nov 2010, 09:52

Hi Henning,

thank You very much for marking the details. In this way I learned again someting more about HL and Borgward trucks. You are the expert in this field. Simply excellent.

Regards

Bert

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by carius » 16 Nov 2010, 06:58

From eBay

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by carius » 16 Nov 2010, 15:54

Hansa

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by fireindi64 » 16 Nov 2010, 16:26

Hmmmm....

dificult! My opinion HL- Merkur IV a other Type marke I found HL 4,5-5 Tonner??? its the same???

lets discus this fact.

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Henning

ps. George

where do you found this in E-Bay?

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by SIS 5 » 16 Nov 2010, 17:13

Hi Henning,

I totally agree with You. In the book "Vom Blitzkarren zum Großen Borgward" by Peter Michels I´ve found a pic of the same truck, I think, not with the same, but a similar flatbed. It`s a pity, that it is the right and not the left side of this vehicle.

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by fireindi64 » 16 Nov 2010, 18:47

ok Bertram :wink:

lets try to discus this fact.
I poste a other pic from the same book in the Merkur site.
Look at the details.
Its a diesel too, different louvres in one diesel type? complete other design of the front window!

what truck of both is the Merkur IV? :wink:

My opinion:
My last post is the Merkur IV in beginnig 1937
your pic and Georges is a HL 4-4,5t end of 1937, I think this construction is the start of the Borgward 4,5-5 Tonner in 1938

whats your opinion about this theorie?

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by peeved » 16 Nov 2010, 22:49

Hi Henning.
The newer type might also be called a HL 4,5-5-tonner; cf. pic below from Autotypenbuch 1937. Merkur III is another possibilty for the three-way tipper; 4-tonner Merkur III and IV pics from Autotypenbuch 1936.
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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by carius » 22 Nov 2010, 08:18

From eBay.de

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by fireindi64 » 23 Nov 2010, 20:34

Hi all,

Markus posted today a very interessting E- bay offer in " interessting E-bay pics"

Like my opinion it shows a 3 Tonner Borgward in a very unusual and rare version. We discus it here 2 or 3 times. The last pics shows RAD trucks but here it should be WH

on one pic we can see , only 1 part of the windscreen is open? 8O

and the side louvres are different to the standart. The Standart is 3 pieces for the " engine roof" :oops: :oops: :oops:
and here it seems only 2

knows every one the buyer of that album for asking better scans?

Best regards

Henning

oh, :oops: sorry I forget asking your opinion?
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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by carius » 24 Nov 2010, 08:22

Opa!Borgi

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Re: Bloody Hansa LLoyd/Borgwards

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Nov 2010, 11:10

Hi al,

Hansa Lloyd truck. Model??

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