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German Tanks in 1946

Discussions on the vehicles used by the Axis forces.
Long-time forum member Ron Klages (1939 - 2007) generously shared his knowledge and the results of his impressive research with the forum, and this section has therefore been renamed in his honour.
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 30 Apr 2002 19:11

In short, it was a 60,000 tons tank, that was supposed to be able to dig through the ground with 4 large drills, 'swim' through water, and drive on land, being powered by (I believe) 4 U- or E-boat engines Was supposed to dig through enemy lines or something like that. Consiste of 70-80 cylinders, linked together as a snake...

You can find an article at http://www.sturmtiger.de ...

The ultimate insanity ;)

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Postby Johan Elisson on 01 May 2002 21:55

Yep, really insane!

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Postby Alex F. on 08 May 2002 15:13

I think that they would have kept the Tiger 2 and put a more powerful gun on it, maybe a 105 high velocity... or a 120 smoothbore.

I imagine they would have worked out all the little problems with the motor/etc.. (less slave labor would have helped that considerably).

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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 08 May 2002 15:59

Larger guns isn't always better - the 8.8 PaK 43 was better than the 12.8... A larger gun would have stressed the front wheels, and meant less rounds stored...

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Postby Timo on 08 May 2002 15:59

DarkRipper wrote:I think that they would have kept the Tiger 2 and put a more powerful gun on it, maybe a 105 high velocity... or a 120 smoothbore.

I imagine they would have worked out all the little problems with the motor/etc.. (less slave labor would have helped that considerably).

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Hmmm. No way the chassis could cope with that. The transmission of the Tiger II could already hardly cope with the 88mm turret configuration.

And what does slave labor have to do with this? The Tiger II wasn't designed by slaves and wasn't build by slaves.
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Tiger Ausf.B Armament

Postby Y Ddraig Goch on 08 May 2002 16:11

I have read somewhere of a project to up gun the Tiger to a 105mm gun.
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Re: Tiger Ausf.B Armament

Postby Timo on 08 May 2002 16:15

Madcap7 wrote:I have read somewhere of a project to up gun the Tiger to a 105mm gun.


These plans were made for most Panzers: to upgun the III to 75mm, to upgun the Panther to 88mm, etc. But in most cases the chassis was simply not capable of carrying the extra weight.
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'What if'

Postby Y Ddraig Goch on 08 May 2002 16:17

Refering back to my topic question but a bit 'What if'. Just imagine a German tank like the Panther Ausf.G but with the ballistic characteristics of the IS-3! A cross between the Panther and the IS-3! WoW!

Why hasn't there been any Western tanks that had the same armour configuration, especially the front glacis plate?
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German Assault gun 194-

Postby David C. Clarke on 09 May 2002 21:21

Check this out, a German Assault gun 194- Cheers, D
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 09 May 2002 21:54

looks like a squashed version of the Jagdpanther - but with the wheels all wrong, and a few other starnge differences...

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Postby Timo on 09 May 2002 22:16

Its a "Panzer" from the Sony Playstation computergame "Panzer Front", not a real German 1940s design.

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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 09 May 2002 22:26

Had a feeling about something like that, but thanks for clarifying!

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Hey!

Postby David C. Clarke on 10 May 2002 02:36

Yo, the 'Aureole' is as good a guess as any! It's not like the Third Reich survived! Besides, what I never quite understood was the German preoccupation with size. I mean who in their right minds would field a 70 ton tank using 1940's technology? Heck, they never solved the problem of excessive breakage of Panzer IV final drives. And don't blame it all on AH, I seem to recall that a certain Ferdinand Porsche had a hand in building some of the larger monstrosities. Cheers, D :wink:
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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne on 10 May 2002 11:46

Hmmm, yes a couple - Maus, Ferdinand/Elefant, Tiger (P), and so on... Krupp made E-100, though, and P-1000 too if I remember correctly!
They are less inventive, just use a number with a lot of 0'es behind and a letter prefix... Animal names much more fun...

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Re: German Assault gun 194-

Postby Y Ddraig Goch on 10 May 2002 12:11

David C. Clarke wrote:Check this out, a German Assault gun 194- Cheers, D


Oh yeah, I've got that game, for the Playstation, Its really good.
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