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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Luftflotte2 » 13 Nov 2015, 18:53

Emmanuel, I think it is a Fiat 626. Nice photo!

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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Manuferey » 13 Nov 2015, 21:10

Thank you, Luftflotte2.

This Fiat 626 could have been captured from the French Army which operated hundreds of these trucks in 1940 according to:
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 6-628.html

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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 13 Nov 2015, 21:52

Did the Italians sell them to France then ?
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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by ilfil » 13 Nov 2015, 22:10

Emmanuel,
"Procured" is one thing, "operated" is quite another. :D
According to the documents, the French army has ordered 1650 Fiat 626s, with proposed delivery of 150 per month, the final batch delivery was fixed Februalry 1940. However, till 10 June 1940 only about 700 of them were received.
It looks like the picture you've posted is taken at the final stages of WW2.
According to the documents again, after the armistice on 8 September 1944, the Mirafiori factory has produced for the needs of the Wehrmacht in total 3323 Fiat 626s and 628s (Einheits cab 626 version) till the end of the year and another 23 in the January 1945, when the factory production was terminated.
So the chance the 626 on your pic is "genuine German" is much bigger, I think. Could be also some survived veteran from the French deliveries, of course. But also could be some "borrowed" from the friendly Italians, or "liberated" from the enemy Italians after September 1944.
So only one thing is sure: it is Fiat 626 :D
HTH
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Edit: It didn't came to me earlier to check. When the photo was magnified the truck in concern started to look more like 666 model, judging from some details. For example the headlights are too low for 626. So the French connection can be totally ignored.

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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Manuferey » 14 Nov 2015, 00:48

Thank you ilfil. Fiat 666 it is then .

Emmanuel

P.S. I think you mean the armistice of September 8, 1943. :wink:

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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by ilfil » 14 Nov 2015, 00:53

Of course it was in 1943 :oops:
Doing many things at once isn't always good :oops:
Sorry for the mistake. Apparently an average monthly output of about 1000 trucks of 626 model alone is too much even for such big factory!
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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by SIS 5 » 14 Nov 2015, 09:28

Hi,

here three pics of a captured Laffly S 35 used by the Luftwaffe (source of the pic: an expired ebay auction).

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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Rui » 14 Nov 2015, 16:52

Do you know, any book, about French trucks, cars and other vehicles, captured and used by the Wehrmacht? And by the way, about Italian vehicles in German use? :milwink:
My Christmas Book Wishlist:

T. Jentz - "Becker Funnies": All Vehicles Converted by Alfred Becker
Martin Block - Bible with all allocations from H.Za to the units
Martin Block - Bible with all Lage (Pz; StuG; Art & Pak; Berge; Beute; gp Kfz)

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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by ilfil » 14 Nov 2015, 18:06

You can find some info here but don't expect too much:

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HTH
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Re: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Rui » 16 Nov 2015, 12:37

ilfil wrote:You can find some info here but don't expect too much:

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HTH
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Thanks, HTH. I have this book. I was thinking more, in a dedicated book about the French and Italian vehicles used by the Germans. Something like the Tankograd books:

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or partially in:

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My Christmas Book Wishlist:

T. Jentz - "Becker Funnies": All Vehicles Converted by Alfred Becker
Martin Block - Bible with all allocations from H.Za to the units
Martin Block - Bible with all Lage (Pz; StuG; Art & Pak; Berge; Beute; gp Kfz)


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Re: Photothread: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 24 Nov 2015, 00:26

Unic P 107.
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Re: Photothread: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by SIS 5 » 25 Nov 2015, 17:29

Hi,

here a pic of a Citroen type 4500 box van (source of the pic: "Tarnen, Täuschen und Attrappen" by Wolfgang Fleischer):

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Re: Photothread: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2015, 20:03

Hi all,

A Renault AGR truck. Any idea about the licence plate ??? :?


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Re: Photothread: Captured & converted French equipments in Axis service

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Post by ilfil » 20 Dec 2015, 21:34

MF= Mil.Befh. in Frankreich
Info from here: http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/emblems/num ... cense1.htm
HTH
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