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Rnox
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Rnox » 30 Jun 2008, 21:45

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hello buddy
not a belgian T15, but an french AMR33 8-)
really rare with german markings 8O
http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index ... &Itemid=38

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Bill Murray » 30 Jun 2008, 22:50

Hi Holger & Bert:

Well, different routes to more or less the same answers.

First photo seems OK as a NSU Fiat 1100
Second seems the same to me with a split front bumper which is a bit odd. But....it has German civilian registration plates which would seem to indicate it came from NSU Fiat. I do not think it is a 1500 as they had a completely different style of front end.

The third car, on further research, seems to be a Viotti cabriolet of the Italian style and that may fit in with Holger's idea of the car coming from Italy and being "re-badged" as a NSU Fiat.

Bill


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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by TadPortly » 01 Jul 2008, 11:39

Rnox wrote:Image
hello buddy
not a belgian T15, but an french AMR33 8-)
really rare with german markings 8O
http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index ... &Itemid=38
Thanks v much :)

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by zaraza » 03 Jul 2008, 04:26

I think i found it.
This could be Praga "Autobus", but i cant find which model.

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Post by barbarossa28 » 03 Jul 2008, 11:04

Thanks Bill,

and here's the next question. The Skoda 6 ST 6 L/T was made beginning in 1935. Later the improved model Skoda H / HD went into production. The Spielberger book is not clear in this point.
I think the first photo shows a Skoda 6 ST 6 L and the second a Skoda H.

Any comments will be helpful.

Regard, Holger.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Bill Murray » 03 Jul 2008, 22:40

Hallo Holger:

Since I am not too familiar with Skoda products, I will pass on information I found in Bart Vanderveen's book " The Observers Army Vehicles Directory to 1940"

Skoda 6 ST 6 L 1935-1939
Skoda 6 ST 6 T 1938
Skoda 6 ST 6 H 1936-1939

Regarding your two photos, the first is identical to what Bart shows for the 6 ST 6 L and the second for what he shows for a 6 ST 6 H.

I hope this helps a little bit.
Bill

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Wolfsangel » 06 Jul 2008, 11:56

Sander D wrote:.


Hi Wesker101

I did some searching ,do you mean this one in a vehicle dump in Denmark 1945 :

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You where saying only one was made.

Looking at te plate numbers 898959 and 1166708 ,there must be at least 2 vehicles who where converted
with a 251 body :D :D :D :D :D :D .

Regards

Sander


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Hi peeps

does anyone know what type of 6 wheeled Krupp chassis was used ? was it same as Krupp Protze ? Is the SdKfz 251 body a type A or B ? and does anyone have any other pictures of this unusual vehicle ? I'm asking because I want to scratch build one in 1/72 scale...

thanking you
Wolfsangel

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Post by Wolfsangel » 07 Jul 2008, 09:22

regarding my last post, and the pic of the SdKfz 251 with wheels....

there are a few anomalies with the picture that Sander posted , that dont conform to any model of the SdKfz 251....

1) the front vision ports are too close together - look at any picture of a SdKfz 251 - no variant has the vision ports so close.

2) there are no side vision ports on the vehicle - (models A & B had 3 each side, models C has 1 vision port , and D has just a slit, without a block), but this one has none

3) the vertical (cooling ?) grille below the numberplate doesnt conform to any SdKfz 251 variant, nor does the square opening at the front of the bonnet. (see drawing below)

4) the weld or join seam roughly above where the exhaust muffler would sit does not appear on any SdKfz 251 variant, and the entire side plate with the letter A on it appears to be the wrong shape for any SdKfz 251 variant. Also though the nose looks like an early SdKfz 251 there are also no engine cooling flaps on this side plate - only the late war model D had no ventilation flaps...

5) it has three evenly spaced tarpaulin hoops - I've only seen pictures with 4 evenly spaced hoops, not a big deal I know, but it is another inconsistency with this vehicle.

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From the evident anomalies with this whole vehicle, I'm thinking its been pieced together from part or parts of an SdKfz 251, with a redesigned front end, or front half ,maybe built from spare armour plating, to resemble a Sdkfz 251 ? possibly only rear end is original SdKfz 251 ? maybe not even that ? the mudguards appear consistent with an early model A/B model 251, but thats the only consistent thing, other than that it has some late D model features (no side ventilation flaps), and some unique features - front vision ports close together, and the front ventilation grille and opening

does anyone other ideas, opinions or pics that might throw some more light on this vehicle ?

Its definitely not a Laffly W15T(gepanzert) - I googled it and found the Laffly W15T(gepanzert) is an entirely different looking (though very interesting) vehicle. Below is link to a picture of a Laffly W15T

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/ ... ff-251.htm

thanking you
Wolfsangel

drawing below is from the publication "SdKfz 251 in action" published by Squadron/Signal. I have put it in for comparison purposes with the above vehicle.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by stoveb » 09 Jul 2008, 05:44

Hi guys,

Another truck I'm afraid, anyone know what type of Ford this is, and whether it is German made or not?

Cheers
Steve
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Post by FRANCY RITTER » 09 Jul 2008, 12:30

Hello friends :D
And this ?? :?
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Post by FRANCY RITTER » 09 Jul 2008, 12:40

Sander D wrote:.

What type of truck is shown in this picture below ????? ,taken some where in the east or so .(from E-bay)

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link Bill,
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4665 ... re1xd8.jpg

I have a second picture of this type of truck ,taken at Belgium vilage .


Regards

Sander

Same truck from ebay..GMC 2 1/2 ton 4X4 Marmon Herrington cargo truck
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Patrice DEBUCQUOY » 09 Jul 2008, 13:16

Hello Francy,

Your van (posted on 09.07.08 11:30) is a Phänomen Granit 30 (1935.39).

Cheers,

Patrice.

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Post by SIS 5 » 09 Jul 2008, 19:02

Hi Steve,

I think Your Ford is the model 91 Y for 1 ton, not produced in Germany.

Regards

Bert

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Post by FRANCY RITTER » 10 Jul 2008, 06:27

Patrice DEBUCQUOY wrote:Hello Francy,

Your van (posted on 09.07.08 11:30) is a Phänomen Granit 30 (1935.39).

Cheers,

Patrice.
Merci Patrice... :wink:

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