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thank You very much for Your replay. I must excuse me again. I accepted informations uncritically.
"Both types were externally identical."- an information from Henry Hoppe. But that isn´t true. There are differences and different types. So I was looking for the different types in the book "Deutsche Autos" by Werner Oswald. There was the model 4/20 PS, type 63. That is the predecessor of the model 4/23 PS, type 11. On Holger´s site You can see it on pic 1.
From 1934 the model 4/23 PS got the name "Garant" and was produced in three different types: type 11/4 (1934 - 1935), type 11/35 (1935 - 1936) and type 11/36 (1936 - 1938). But I cannot tell You the exact distinctions. In any case on Your pic is the model 4/23 PS, or other name "Garant", either type 11/35 or 11/36. And I think on Holger´s site on the second pic is the type 11/36. So the list of Kübelwagen of Hanomag is not complete in the book "Kraftfahrzeuge und Panzer" by Werner Oswald.
I hope You can follow my explanations.
Now to the other cars: it could be one of the first Adler Kübelwagen, maybe on th chassis of the type "Favorite".
The other car is a Mercedes-Benz type 170 V, a car produced for the police 1937/38 (source of the information and the pic: "Mercedes PKW und LKW 1935 - 1945" by Dr. Hans-Georg Mayer-Stein).
Regards Sturm78