Vehicle identity requests

[Hans 1942]

Hi all,

1. ?
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?

http://photo.qip.ru/users/coast70/

[Maxschnauzer]

Hello again Andrey,

#4. The Polizei vechicle looks like a left hand drive Steyr 14/35 (the one below is from 1929-1930):

[Bill Murray]

Hi Andrey:

#1 is a 1940 Ford.
#2 is a ca. 1935 Wolseley Hornet.

Like Max and others, I am working on the rest.

Bill

[Hans 1942]

Hi Bill, hi Max,

Thank you very much.


Regards,

Andrey

[Alanmccoubrey]

Hans, I can't tell you what number 3 is but I can say that the soldiers and registration number are pre-war Czechoslovak.

[Bill Murray]

My thanks to Alan........

#3 may be a Praga Lady from around 1934 1935.
Edit: There are some detail differences. The radiator surround is slightly different as are the wheels.
There is not very much out there on the Internet that gives good detail photos but a lot of what I see is very close.
Bill

[Bill Murray]

After further research, a Praga Alfa seems to be a lot closer.
Bill

[Hans 1942]

Hi Bill,

Thank you very much.

My russian friends helped me to find this car DKW F7 Luxus-Cabriolett.



Regards,

Andrey

[Bill Murray]

Very good Andrey:

I was not able to solve the DKW photo. I am happy that someone could do it. Another positive ID for your photo files.
Bill

[fireindi64]

Hello! We have just purchased what we believed to be a Borgward L1400, but as we tear down the vehicle to properly restore it, it appears to be an L2300. Are we correct in this assessment? The tires and wheels on the rear axle are incorrect. We think it ought to be a dual-tire setup, based on the size of the well and the size of the proper tires. The tires on it are general use tires affixed to a small rim. I've not seen any L1400s with the open cab configuration, though I don't have a lot of research to go off of. This truck came out of the museum in Indiana. We also think the German writing on the side is nonsense. Cant make any legible sense out of the phrases. Any help on this vehicle is GREATLY appreciated!



Many more images of the vehicle and engine are at our site below:
http://panzergroupsouth.com/collection/borgward-l2300/

Hello "panzergruppesüd"

congratulation!!! I think you get the only existing Borgward 1,5t/L2300 in original WH-version. Unfortunal I didnt visit this forum for a longer time. So I read now your post. I try to get your contact for a longer time , so I asked Mr Koscak in 09.12.2014 for a help .
I get a service list that says your car was built in 1940 with a 6 cyl, benzin , 2247 ccm engine.
like my opinion only the flat was built by Richter in Rathenow. I get no explenation how they come together, the flat to Borgward or the Borgward to Richter/Rathenow.
I think also your cab was modified postwar in Belgium, its a little bit wide.
Do you know the Borgward forum? There are some pictures about the very rare Borgward 1,5t WH version.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=420

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... -2300.html

It would be great to continue this contact and see some Details pics and steps of your restore.

best regards from Northern Germany

Henning

@ Bertram, you are a real "finder" I never saw the Borgward 1 Tonner with WH cab!!! you are sure that was WH or a other organization NSKK, Police or so on?

[fireindi64]

Re: the Borgward anyone know what the 1940 dated Richter Rathenow manufacturer's plate refers to? I'd expect the chassis to have a Carl F.W. Borgward Bremen plate. Maybe Richter made the bodywork? Incidentally has anyone encountered the Waffenamt acceptance code waa631 or is it waa531 before?

As an ID point if the lorry has an original 6 Volt electrical system and 70 mm bore engine it should be L 2000 S; L 2300 if 12 V electrics and 72 mm bore according to Handbuch der Kraftfahrzeug-Typen, Band 2 by Carl Otto Windecker.

Markus

I have been looking for a plate on the chassis, but no luck yet. Hopefully once we get the engine out, that will become visible.

second one

I think the plate was lost, may be you found 4 drill holes , on the driver site, in the engine room. Here some examples from a 3 tonner and 1 tonner

best regards
Henning

[fireindi64]

... third one

i think this is the original position of the doorhinge.

best regards

Henning

[Frankfurter]

Hello Hans,

Just to piggy back on Bill's id's I believe the #3 Horch is a Type 951A "Pullman" limousine (ca. 1937).
I wonder if anyone can identify the passengers?

I think its a Horch 830BL Pullman cabriolet (clearly not a limousine!)
(the 951 had a longer bonnet with different louvres and all photos I have seen feature different bumpers)

The flag is the one of an ordinary Wehrmacht general.

[Hans 1942]

Hi Frankfurter,

Thank you very much.


Regards,

Andrey

[Maxschnauzer]

Hello Hans,

Just to piggy back on Bill's id's I believe the #3 Horch is a Type 951A "Pullman" limousine (ca. 1937).
I wonder if anyone can identify the passengers?

I think its a Horch 830BL Pullman cabriolet (clearly not a limousine!)
(the 951 had a longer bonnet with different louvres and all photos I have seen feature different bumpers)

The flag is the one of an ordinary Wehrmacht general.

You are correct, Frankfurter. The caption under this cabrio pic reads:The Horch 5 Liter type 951 resp. 951 A Pullman limousine was made from 1937 to 1940. It was propelled by a 8-cylinder engine with a cylinder capacity of 5 litres and a power of 120 HP.. This led to my identification as a limousine (actually a convertible limo in the States).

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_english/Motor_Vehicles/Germany/Auto-Union/Horch/Horch_850-851-951/horch_850-851-951.html

Horch_951_Pullmann_Cabrio-_IA-4407-_Munch_via_Hoppe.jpg (89.22 KiB) Viewed 1271 times

Below is Holger's pic of the 830BL for comparison purposes:

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_english/Motor_Vehicles/Germany/Auto-Union/Horch/Horch_830_BL/horch_830_bl.html

Horch_830_BL_der_WL.jpg (73.98 KiB) Viewed 1271 times

Thanks for the corrrection.