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Post by uncle » 15 May 2016, 21:33

hi friends! old topic. Maybe Guy Vixen - produced by many different models!
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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 15 May 2016, 21:40

People enthusiastically greet Hitler on a ride through Munich in an open car. Standing in the car: Adjutant Otto Günsche - undated (ca. 1942/1943) Picture: Walter Frentz
Hi, what kind of vehicle is this?

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Post by Bill Murray » 15 May 2016, 22:33

Looks to me like a Mercedes 770.

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Post by kerryboo » 16 May 2016, 09:41

Please can somebody identify what vehicle this engine layout belongs to?
Many thanks,
Kerry.
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Post by kerryboo » 16 May 2016, 15:50

A second one, is this perhaps some sort of Opel Blitz? It seems to have the curious descending arc moulding on the door, plus an "MH" registration and the letter St So on the side. The attendants are in Luftwaffe uniform.
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Post by shamirnewell » 16 May 2016, 15:57

kerryboo wrote:Please can somebody identify what vehicle this engine layout belongs to?
Many thanks,
Kerry.
This looks like a Tatra 92/93 series.

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Post by shamirnewell » 16 May 2016, 16:13

kerryboo wrote:A second one, is this perhaps some sort of Opel Blitz? It seems to have the curious descending arc moulding on the door, plus an "MH" registration and the letter St So on the side. The attendants are in Luftwaffe uniform.
Thanks,
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It is an Opel Blitz but not sure about the custom body. Maybe a mobile canteen or office body of some function.

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Post by ilfil » 16 May 2016, 17:05

Hi Kerry,
1. About the car. I don't know why but it smells Austrian to me. The engine is air cooled definitely and the fan reminds me those of Steyr 1500A/2000As. This doesn't mean it is Steyr on your picture, but here Bill is the expert.
A pic of captured Steyr 2000A engine, just to illustrate what I mean:

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2. About the Blitz. I'm almost positive it is ex-civilian furniture van over Blitz 3-ton low frame bus chassis. The bodywork is most probably by some Benelux coachbuilder, but could be also German.
I also have no idea what this MH number plate could be, as you know there were MR, MN, etc., but not MH.
However, I think the Luftwaffe member couldn't be related with the vehicle. Note the side marking says "St. Sp." (not "So", sorry!), i.e. "Stab Speer", AFAIK a construction unit within Organisation "Todt" under direct command of the Minister of the armaments. So most probably "yours" is a sort of office, for some construction site supervisor(s) maybe.
If judging from the pictures, it looks "Bst. Sp." was more popular marking (means "Baustab Speer", I guess, could be also "Baustelle Speer", I really don't know):

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HTH
Cheers!
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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 16 May 2016, 17:11

Bill Murray wrote:Looks to me like a Mercedes 770.

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Thank you Bill

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Post by Luftflotte2 » 16 May 2016, 17:42

kerryboo wrote:Please can somebody identify what vehicle this engine layout belongs to?
Many thanks,
Kerry.
Tatra T93!

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Post by ilfil » 16 May 2016, 18:37

Luftflotte2 wrote: Tatra T93!
Hi Luftflotte!
I wish I has your bravity :)
I agree it is Tatra but why 93 and not 92? The 93 model, factory design No. V800, is model 92 development for Rumania, and the only difference is that the basic 92 is 6x4 and the 93 is 6x6. I really can't see on that picture is it with front driving axle or not :( Regretfully the front wheel also isn't visible, so no other recognition poins. :( (The driving/non-driving axle front wheel hubs apart, the Rumanian 92s and 93s were with 6-hole wheels, the Czech army 92s were with 2-hole wheels)
Full marks to you anyway! It is Tatra, fully confirmed by the engine and the springed front bumper:

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(pic fm Rumanian manual on T93)
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Post by kerryboo » 16 May 2016, 18:40

shamir, Luftflotte2,
Thank you for the direction, I was stumped.
Best regards,
Kerry.

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Post by kerryboo » 16 May 2016, 18:42

And not forgetting you ilfil,
all the best,
Kerry.

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Post by kerryboo » 16 May 2016, 19:04

ilfil,
Thanks for the input.
I have rescanned the lettering, it is definitely not StSp, I feel sure it is StSo. There is not enough room under the lettering for the tail of a "p", it could be an "a", but I go with "o". Here is the scan.
Cheers,
Kerry.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by shamirnewell » 16 May 2016, 19:20

kerryboo wrote:ilfil,
Thanks for the input.
I have rescanned the lettering, it is definitely not StSp, I feel sure it is StSo. There is not enough room under the lettering for the tail of a "p", it could be an "a", but I go with "o". Here is the scan.
Cheers,
Kerry.
The two crew seem to have political Eagles on their left uniform sleeves. Luftwaffe used the Luftwaffe eagle on the breast.

There is a symbol cartouche below the right headlamp. Appears to be something within a circle.

Was a MH registration a valid German registration?
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