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Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Discussions on the vehicles used by the Axis forces.
Long-time forum member Ron Klages (1939 - 2007) generously shared his knowledge and the results of his impressive research with the forum, and this section has therefore been renamed in his honour.
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby carius on 26 Apr 2012 06:06

Chevy and White

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby carius on 26 Apr 2012 06:30

Lincoln and Ford in Charkov

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby carius on 27 Apr 2012 09:56

Crossley

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby carius on 03 May 2012 06:09

Austin pick-up

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby carius on 03 May 2012 06:10

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby Radek-Austin on 03 May 2012 16:35

This isn´t Austin pickup but Austin "Tilly" light utility G/YG 8-)
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby carius on 04 May 2012 06:09

OK :lol: !

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby peeved on 09 May 2012 20:16

Krupp Protze lorry Umbau with well-hung doors from exp. eBay.de.

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby Alanmccoubrey on 09 May 2012 20:39

Markus, I wonder if that is a former Hungarian vehicle, didn't they build theirs with doors like that ?
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby peeved on 09 May 2012 20:46

Good point, Alan,

The bodywork is apparently also the standard Hungarian lorry type; Teutonic stenciling in the door though.

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby Alanmccoubrey on 09 May 2012 21:00

And no Notek light !
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby peeved on 09 May 2012 21:12

BTW, when did the Protze production for Wehrmacht receive Noteks and were they retrofitted to older Protzes? Protze photos with Notek appear comparatively rare.

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby Alanmccoubrey on 09 May 2012 21:42

Markus, judgin g by the pics in the Waffen Arsenal "Krupp-Kraftwagen im Kriege" and on Oldtimer Gallery all the pre-Barbarossa vehicles are without the Notek while it is on about a third of them after that.
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby peeved on 09 May 2012 21:45

Thanks Alan,

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Postby spannermann on 10 May 2012 07:24

Hi,
The Notek Night driving system was introduced onto new made vehicles in early 1940, and at the same time lighting kits were issed for retropective fitting to existing vehicles.

All my original Notek documenation is dated 1940.

This is noticible when looking at photos of vehicles in the Battle for France in 1940, a few will have the Notek system but most do not, after this date of course the amount of Notek systems on vehicles increases rapidly. No doubt the intention was to restrospectively fit the system to all earlier vehciles, but I am sure that there were some that lasted for a long time without ever being fitted with the system.

So the vast majority of Krupp Proetz would have been manufactured without the Notek system.

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