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Bill Murray
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Bill Murray » 14 Feb 2014, 01:05

Hi Sturm:

I think there is no question that your photo is a Bedford MW, but it may be an interesting and rather rare one due to the wheel equipment.

I have seen only one photo with a similar type of road wheel which I am posting here, that has what I would describe as "non-military tyres". In any case, a very good find.

Bill
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by SIS 5 » 14 Feb 2014, 16:48

Hi Sturm 78, hi Bill,

very interesting pic, indeed. In the book "British Military Trucks in Wehrmacht Service" by Jochen Vollert I have found a pic of a Bedford type OXD with the same rims and similra tyres. Interesting is the comment to this pic: "A notable detail on this Bedford OXD 20cwt GS 4x2 is that its original British tyres and rims on the front axle were replaced by German ones. Usually the availability of spare parts for Bedfords was good enough due to the large number that could be used as spare-part donors after Dunkirk, so this was quite a rare occurrence."

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by kerryboo » 14 Feb 2014, 22:51

Hello all,
I think Bill has tempted another out of the woodwork!
Kerry
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by kerryboo » 14 Feb 2014, 22:58

Another?
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by kerryboo » 15 Feb 2014, 00:29

And a last one. I am aware that these three are of the OX/OY models, not the MW as the first, in Sturm's post, but I think the principle is the same.
Kerry.
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by carius » 18 Feb 2014, 08:51

8O
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Feb 2014, 13:06

Thank you to all for your images of Bedfords with early type wheel rims.

Here, another Bedford MWD in German use:

Image from EBay
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by SIS 5 » 22 Feb 2014, 18:54

Hi all,

here a pic of captured scout car White M 3 A 1on the Russian front, a vehicle of the Lend & Lease treaty. (source of the pic: an expired ebay auction).

Regards

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by kerryboo » 23 Feb 2014, 13:09

Here is an early, Reichswehr period, personnel car of some sort. I am not sure if it a conversion or a purpose-built kubelwagen, but my feeling is for the former.
Kerry.
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Bill Murray » 23 Feb 2014, 14:12

Hi Kerry:

The last one looks quite a bit like an early Opel 1.2 liter car. A bit hard to say if it is a one off or purpose built but I tend to agree with you in that it looks like a 2 door sedan or convertible with the front door merely removed rather than styled like the normal Kubels usually are.

Bill

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Bill Murray » 23 Feb 2014, 14:13

Another for you, Kerry, to add to your Bedford collection.

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by kerryboo » 23 Feb 2014, 15:32

Well Bill, it goes to show that nothing is impossible. Very smart cab construction too, I wonder where it was taken? It has an almost Soviet industrial feel to the background, but I guess most marshalling yards look similar, no matter where.
Many thanks,
Kerry.

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Jose85 » 23 Feb 2014, 23:13

Ford V8 radio car, a bit crude conversion :) Photo from eBay.de
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Jose85 » 24 Feb 2014, 01:04

38 Chevy van?-by the grille and European body? Not the best angle for body recognition (sorry the truck in the back is a job for someone else :) ) Photo from eBay.de
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

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Post by Bill Murray » 24 Feb 2014, 01:21

Hi Jose:

The radio van is a 1937/8 pattern Ford of the German type. Notice the headlamps are separate, they were integrated into the fenders/mudguards on the US variants. And thank you for posting the photo, one I have never seen before. The Chevrolet is indeed a 1938 model with a locally built body.

For the moment, I cannot ID the truck in the background. I feel it is a civilian vehicle, beute/impressed but I am not sure.

Bill

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