► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Ford M1940 :

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi,

here a pic with three captured British AEC Marshal trucks (source of the pic: an expired ebay auction).

Regards

Bert

[Bill Murray]

A few for today. Some may be reposts in the next few days as I am playing catch-up and trying to re-organize my files.

Pontiac 1934.
Ford 1935.
Chevrolet 1938.
All ex ebay.

Bill

[Bill Murray]

Some more.

Ford ex Denmark.
Fordson ex UK.
Studebaker 1837.

Bill

[Bill Murray]

3 more.
Oldsmobile 1935.
Ford 1935.
Dodge or Fargo.
Ex ebay photos are obvious.

Bill

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Chevrolet M1938 ???

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Bill Murray]

Hi Sturm:

Even more rare than a Chevrolet, it is a 1938 Oldsmobile and an umbau at that!!

Notice the louvers in the side of the motor hood are different from the Chevrolet and also the Oldsmobile has a larger plaque surface above the louvers for the word "Oldsmobile". On the Chevrolet, there is the much smaller Chevrolet logo inside their "cross".

Bill

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much for your help, Bill

Regards Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Any idea about the exact model of this Dodge truck ??

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Bill Murray]

Hi Sturm:

Canadian built Dodge T110L probably ex-British.
Bill

[kerryboo]

Hi Sturm78,
The writing on the front of the load-bed is interesting, and puzzling. it appears to say NO LIFTS on the left and MITFAHRT (?) on the right. The driver has no insignia, given the relaxed attitude to uniform in the Western Desert it is impossible to say which side he was on. More questions than answers I am afraid!
Kerry.

[Bill Murray]

Sturm-Kerry:

All in all, an interesting photo.

There is no Notek lamp, and the one headlamp is unmasked.
The body is not like any I have seen on this vehicle and i wonder if the "No Lifts" and "Mitfahrt" have to do with a body that seems to be built up on the sides and empty in the middle which would probably collapse due to lack of support if you lifted it by the body sides, for example ship loading.

Further, the tyres, which are definitely sand type, were rarely found on this vehicle and I cannot seem to find any photos of this type being used in North Africa. Almost all photos show the type of tyre found on the photos I posted.

It is definitely a T110/D60L but I am wondering if this photo may possibly have been taken on some expedition after the war in North Africa. I am probably wrong, but a lot of things are a bit out of the ordinary on this truck.

Any other ideas??

Bill

[Bill Murray]

A small correction on the Dodge question.
The Jewish Brigade were issued some of these trucks in Egypt in 1944. They eventually ended up in other parts of Europe.
They do not have the same type of tyres as in Sturm's photo.

On the other hand, the Jewish Brigade dressed much in the same manner in his photo so maybe even more of a mystery.

Bill

[spannermann]

REFERENCE Photo #3250 of two line of Dodge trucks.

This photo is from a book about a vehicle assembly garage called "Pearson's of Liverpool", the photo is taken in March 1945 and is titled "Canadian Dodge D60S Model T-110-L-6 Lorry 3-ton 4x2 Tipping, Census Numbers 6206807 to 6207172".

hope this is of interest, cheers leonard paul

[Sean N]

Bill, Kerry, Sturm,

I'm no nearer an explanation than you, but some points may be instructive. The Dodge in the photo carries what look like British identification patches on both wings, though with no colours or markings, and a diamond shaped emblem possibly with some sort of animal on the door. It also has a bridge plate on the offside front. The apparently very wide steel body with toolboxes does not look original but does look like a typical post war (or even wartime) British military design, though apparently built up into some sort of caravan (?) It looks at least three different colours to me but having the front, cab and body different doesn't really look like a camouflage pattern. There is another vehicle the same or similar in the background, certainly a Dodge, apparently painted the same and with a similar body. I don't set too much store by the tyres as they mat have been mixed and matched, and in fact the vehicle in the photo has two different types on.