Soviet war diaries online: "pamyat-naroda.ru"

[G. Trifkovic]

Hi AMVAS,

and thanks for the catalog. What do you mean by the site's owners reinforcing its protection? Can you give us more details?

Cheers,

G.

[AMVAS]

Hi AMVAS,

and thanks for the catalog. What do you mean by the site's owners reinforcing its protection? Can you give us more details?

Cheers,

G.

The site was opened in May 2015 and initially had quite a weak protection from serial downloading. So, knowing URL of one page, one could easily download all the others from the specific dossier.
After several dozens Gigabytes were found at Russian torrents (namely on Rutracker.org) the site owners decided to apply more powerful protection, because to their mind users must be allowed to save pages only manually.
These protection games lasts for more than 2 weeks. I'm very interested to see what they invent. Some years ago I managed to download all operative materials from Podvignaroda.mil.ru site of the same owner, which contains records of front/army scale mainly for 1941 and partly 1945 years. And hope to work with the new invented mechanisms too

[Art]

After several dozens Gigabytes were found at Russian torrents (namely on Rutracker.org) the site owners decided to apply more powerful protection, because to their mind users must be allowed to save pages only manually.

IT Crowd: Dumb and Dumber. Shouldn't they spend their efforts to make the interface more user-friendly instead of doing what they do?

[AMVAS]

IT Crowd: Dumb and Dumber. Shouldn't they spend their efforts to make the interface more user-friendly instead of doing what they do?

This simple thought is far away from their heads. For more than 5 years of ELAR projects existance I'm struggling with their interfaces and search engines. Their main problem is that they don't want to listen to experts. they repliy "the project is directed to relatives of soldiers and not for experts resarch works" and this means experts must shut up and eat what they are provided by kind "big boys" from ELAR.
Right now I'm working under solving of some problems with indexation to build more comprehansive catalogue. Will post it when I am able to complete the work

[Art]

A privately developed engine for searching documents in a digitized collection (in Russian):
http://vnr.github.io/pamyat-naroda-search/
In particular the engine can provide a list of documents in a specific archival folder which is handy.

[G. Trifkovic]

Thanks for the latest link, Art, very helpful indeed.

Is there a solution for the bug on "pamyat-naroda" which doesn't allow a user to load documents past page 10? For instance, the document with reference number 134922239 (https://pamyat-naroda.ru/dou/?docID=134922239) has 75 pages, but I can load only the first ten.

Cheers,

G.

[Eugen Pinak]

Thanks for the latest link, Art, very helpful indeed.

Is there a solution for the bug on "pamyat-naroda" which doesn't allow a user to load documents past page 10? For instance, the document with reference number 134922239 (https://pamyat-naroda.ru/dou/?docID=134922239) has 75 pages, but I can load only the first ten.

Cheers,

G.

See solution here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1976395

[G. Trifkovic]

Thanks, Eugen and Garry.

I'll paste Garry Kennedy's solution here, so that we have all the relevant information concerning the use of "Pamyat-naroda" in one place:

Leo,

I did get it to work, after selecting Inspect Image I right clicked again and went for Edit as HTML to change the page to the next number, then scrolled to the bottom and just clicked towards the base of the script, and it moved onto the next page.

Gary

Cheers,

G.

[Art]

Probably, that would be valuable. Correspondence between numerical designation of "funds" or archival sections and major formations from which documents originated:
21- 21 Army (err)
40 - 40 Army (err)
46 – 2 Belorussian Front
47 – Transcaucasus Front
48 – Stalingrad Front
51 – Northern Group of the Transcaucaus Front, North-Caucasus Front
62 – Central Front
64 – South Front
201 – Belorussian Front
202 - Bryansk Front
203 – Voronezh Front
204 – Volkhov Front
206 – Don Front
208 – West Front
209 – Transcaucasus Front
210 – Transbaikal Front
213 – Kalinin Front
214 – Karelian Front
215 – Crimean Front
216 – Caucaus Front
217 – Leningrad Front
219 – Reserve Front
220 – Stalingrad Front
221 – North-West Front
224 – North-Caucasus Front
226 – Central Front
228 – South Front
229 – South-West Front (I)
232 – South-West Front (II)
233 – 1 Belorussian Front
234 – 1 Far-East Front
235 – 1 Baltic Front
236 – 1 Ukrainian Front
237 – 2 Belorussian Front
238 – 2 Far-East Front
239 – 2 Baltic Front
240 – 2 Ukrainian Front
241 – 3 Belorussian Front
242 – 3 Baltic Front
243 – 3 Ukrainian Front
244 – 4 Ukrainian Front
270 – Chuguev Operational Group
276 – Black Sea Group of the Transcaucasus Front
286 – North-Caucasus Air Defense Region
290 – 1 Air Army
292 – 1 Guards Army
294 – 1 Army
299 – 1 Tank Army
301 – 1 Shock Army
303 – 2 Guards Army
304 – 2 Army
307 – 2 Tank Army
309 – 2 Shock Army
310 – 3 Army
312 – 63 Army/3 Guards Army
315 – 3 Guards Tank Army
316 – 3 Tank Army
317 – 3 Guards Army
320 – 24 Army/4 Guards Army
323 – 4 Tank Army
325 – 4 Shock Army
326 – 5 Army
328 – 66 Army/5 Guards Army
331 – 5 Tank Army
332 – 5 Guards Tank Army
333 – 5 Shock Army
334 – 21 Army/6 Guards Army
339 – 6 Tank Army
340 – 7 Army
341 – 64 Army/7 Guards Army
344 – 8 Army
345 – 62 Army/8 Guards Army
350 – 9 Guards Army
353 – 10 Army
354 – 30 Army/10 Guards Army
357 – 11 Army
358 – 16 Army/11 Guards Army
361 – 13 Army
363 – 14 Army
369 – 17 Army
371 – 18 Army
375 – 21 Army
376 – 22 Army
377 – 23 Army
379 – 25 Army
381 – 27 Army
384 – 29 Army
386 – 31 Army
388 – 33 Army
389 - 34 Army
390 – 35 Army
391 – 36 Army
393 – 38 Army
394 – 39 Army
395 – 40 Army
396 – 41 Army
397 – 42 Army
398 – 43 Army
399 – 44 Army
400 – 45 Army
401 – 46 Army
402 – 47 Army
404 – 49 Army
405 – 50 Army
406 – 51 Army
407 – 51 Army
408 – 52 Army
409 – 53 Army
410 – 54 Army
411 – 55 Army
412 – 56 Army
413 – 57 Army
415 – 58 Army
416 – 59 Army
417 – 60 Army
418 – 61 Army
420 – 63 Army
421 – 19 Army
422 – 65 Army
423 – 20 Army
424 – 67 Army
425 – 68 Army
426 - 69 Army
427 –70 Army
Some numbers, e.g. 21 and 40 were clearly the result of search engine errors, but still documents can be found in the database using these identifiers.