What if, Göring was killed in WW1

[aviant_greek]

what would happen to Luftwaffe if Göring was killed in ww1
maybe nazi germany will won the ww2 because Luftwaffe was managed in very better way?
maybe nazi germany will fight with very different Luftwaffe from what we know, since Göring was the man behind the birth of the Luftwaffe?
or maybe there will be no 2nd world war either?

any comment is accepted...
thanx

[BDV]

Goring played a significant role in turning the Prussian secret police into the Nazi's faithful servant - the GESTAPO. He also was key in setting up the concentration camp sytem. He seems to have played a significant role in shaping the anti-semitic policies of the 3rd Reich (in particular the plunder part), too.

The expasion of Luftwaffe under his leadership was tremedous, so he should be credited with some contribution to the early military victories (France, Poland).

I seriously doubt that the Nazis get anywhere without him, moreso than any other of AHs henchmen.

[maltesefalcon]

There was still plenty of ineptitude to go around. Don't think there would be a radical chage ie huge 4 engine bomber force etc.

However Germany might have had a better Naval air arm to combat Alles shipping. I'm not thinking carriers more like Coastal Command. Göring fought tooth and nail against any attempt to give more strength to this effort.

[aviant_greek]

don't know bout the political involvement of Goering
still wonder what would happen to luftwaffe (and the Germany in WW2 in general) if he was killed in WW2

no dunkirk blunder, battle of britain may have a different story and different ending, or no stalingard tragedy?

@maltesefalcon
i believe you thought about goering involvement in rejecting Bf 109T for Graf Zeppelin
i'm not really know about it, why he refuse for germany first aircraft carrier project?

as far as i know, bomber development in luftwaffe was walter wever creation to make long range bomber, but after his accident, ernst udet turn it into dive bomber project (which is proved valuable for blitzkrieg strategy, but failure for long war campaign), so until the end of the war luftwaffe never have trully operable long range bomber.
my question is, what part of Goering in bomber development?


Sorry for bad english, CMIIW
Best Regards

[stg 44]

The Nazis might not rise to power. Goering provided this access that allowed Hitler to gain allies and legitimacy among the power brokers of Germany. Hitler would never have been able to meet the industrialists that provided the Nazis with funding that made them a national functioning interest. Without that the Nazis remain a regional group of extremists. So unless someone else comes along that gives Hitler the same access, he just becomes a historical footnote and World War two never happens (at least not as we know it).

[maltesefalcon]

don't know bout the political involvement of Goering
still wonder what would happen to luftwaffe (and the Germany in WW2 in general) if he was killed in WW2

no dunkirk blunder, battle of britain may have a different story and different ending, or no stalingard tragedy?

@maltesefalcon
i believe you thought about goering involvement in rejecting Bf 109T for Graf Zeppelin
i'm not really know about it, why he refuse for germany first aircraft carrier project?

as far as i know, bomber development in luftwaffe was walter wever creation to make long range bomber, but after his accident, ernst udet turn it into dive bomber project (which is proved valuable for blitzkrieg strategy, but failure for long war campaign), so until the end of the war luftwaffe never have trully operable long range bomber.
my question is, what part of Goering in bomber development?

Sorry for bad english, CMIIW
Best Regards

There is not much point in arguing whether Goering interfered with use of "his" aircraft on Graf Zeppelin. It was up to the DKM to get the vessel commisioned first and that part never happened.

No I was thinking more of how much he (like Harris) found useful things like land based attacks against Naval assets to be a drain on his precious resources. Although they did make an effort, a more ambitous undertaking would have rendered the waters around Britain more hazardous and may have salvaged the North Africa campaign.