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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Feb 2014, 21:48

Hi all,

Junkers Ju 52 with non standard engines. Any idea ??

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Feb 2014, 00:28

Nobody ??

Well, I need help to identify the exact version of this He 111 bomber : B or D version ?? :?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Snautzer05 » 08 Feb 2014, 12:12

He111B-2 Note the later style nose cone to differentiate B1-B2 and the spinner to differentiate B model to others.

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Feb 2014, 18:03

Snautzer05 wrote
He111B-2 Note the later style nose cone to differentiate B1-B2 and the spinner to differentiate B model to others
Ummhhhh.... I am not sure. I think the spinner of B, D and J models is identical. :?

Here, another He 111 to identify. I think He 111J (see engine exhausts) but I am not sure

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Snautzer05 » 10 Feb 2014, 11:36

He111B-2 Note the later style nose cone to differentiate B1-B2 and the spinner to differentiate B model to others
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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Feb 2014, 12:19

Hi Snautzer05,

See the post number 390 by Roches, on 27 Nov 2013.
If you see the links, yo can see that B, D and J models had the same spinners. :?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Snautzer05 » 10 Feb 2014, 15:30

I say its a He111B-2. But you are free to doubt that.
Edit: type must be He111B-2
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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Feb 2014, 17:06

Thank you, Snautzer05. :wink:

The B is a possibility. I'm just saying that there are perhaps other possibilities.

Here, another three images from EBay:

Image 1: He 172 ??
Image 2: Do 17, but what exact model ? Do 17M, Do 17P ??? :?
Image 3: Aero A.100 ??

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Post by Snautzer05 » 10 Feb 2014, 22:42

1 Do17M
2 Heinkel He72 Kadett
3 Aero Ab101 (LEMB id http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forum ... wtopic=376

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Feb 2014, 12:35

Thank you for your answer, Snautzer05.

About the Heinkel, the He 172 was a He 72 with NACA cowling. Could this be the prototype?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Sturm78 » 13 Feb 2014, 22:05

Hi all,

How is possible differentiate between the Do 17M bomber and Do 17P recon ? :?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 13 Feb 2014, 22:16

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

How is possible differentiate between the Do 17M bomber and Do 17P recon ? :?

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To be truthful I'd have to go purely on the aircraft's markings, if it is wearing a bomber unit code then its an M if it is wearing a recce unit code then a P, but then I do like the simple life.
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Post by Sturm78 » 14 Feb 2014, 00:00

Thank you, Alan. :wink:

A pity that I am not an expert in aircraft's unit markings. :(

Here, a example where there are not markings visible. :x M or P ??

I guess the same thing happened between the Do 17E and F models. no?

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Feb 2014, 13:23

Hi all,

Another question about the Do 17: Do 17E or F ??

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Re: Id. german aircraft

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Post by cammerjeff » 21 Feb 2014, 01:10

Sturm78 wrote:Thank you, Alan. :wink:

A pity that I am not an expert in aircraft's unit markings. :(

Here, a example where there are not markings visible. :x M or P ??

I guess the same thing happened between the Do 17E and F models. no?

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If I do Understand the differences between M & P Models, the main difference is the engine type, the recon version used lower powered engines for increased range, and the best Photo ID is taller Exhaust Pipes, the M series exhaust pipes are shorter. And another difference is if there in a Bombsite Bulge or blister under the nose. the picture you posted the engine exhaust pipes are not visable, so no Help, but there is no lower bombsite fairing so I would say it is probably a P model. But as the Bomber versions were retired was the Bombsite Fairing removed? I do not know.

http://historylink101.com/bw/e_plane/la ... 028_e3.jpg

This image shows an M version with the lower bombsite fairing and the short engine exhaust pipes.

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww2/do17m/do17m-5.jpg

This image show a P model without the Bombsite Fairing and the taller Engine Exhaust Pipes/

As for the difference between E & F Models, it would be limited to the bombsite fairing.

At least that is how I understand it.

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