Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Thank you very much Larry for your post above and the one you had earlier made about the issue.
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Thanks Larry, as always that's very helpful.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
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Hi,
Attached are the monthly Luftwaffe losses for the Eastern Front in 1941. These were compiled post-war by the British, based on the German individual aircraft loss reports. Thus these figures are as accurate as it is possible to find.
More to follow in a moment.
All the best,
Andrew A.
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Attached are the monthly Luftwaffe losses for the Eastern Front in 1941. These were compiled post-war by the British, based on the German individual aircraft loss reports. Thus these figures are as accurate as it is possible to find.
More to follow in a moment.
All the best,
Andrew A.
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Hi,
Here are three more months of 1941. December 1941 will follow.
All the best,
Andrew A.
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Here are three more months of 1941. December 1941 will follow.
All the best,
Andrew A.
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Hi,
And here are the Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front for December 1941. I hope these figures are of interest.
All the best,
Andrew A.
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And here are the Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front for December 1941. I hope these figures are of interest.
All the best,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.facebook.com/airwarpublications
Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Andrew
The document on Luftwaffe monthly whose pages you showed.
Can you identify it and say where I might be able to see a copy?
The document on Luftwaffe monthly whose pages you showed.
Can you identify it and say where I might be able to see a copy?
Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Brilliant info Andrew, many thanks!
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
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I've turned this into a spreadsheet with the months of Dec and Nov 41, and a total table. If anyone feels inclined to continue, feel free to use it.
Free to a good home
Free to a good home
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
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Hi,
Glad it was of use. The source is Air Historical Branch Translation VII/92. My copy of the document came from the Australian War Memorial, file reference AWM 54 423/4/103 PART 115. It can also be found at the British National Archives at Kew, somewhere in the range NA AIR 20/7700 to 7712 (that is where all of the AHB translations are located).
There is a whole series of these Luftwaffe summary loss files. They were discussed on the Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum, on this page and those after it: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthrea ... 631&page=8
As I posted there:
These AHB translations are also available at the Australian War Memorial, and at NARA in the United States (Record Group 549). The AWM has the following:
- September 1939-December 1940
- January 1941-December 1941
- Western Front, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Western Front, January 1944-April 1944
- Western Front, May 1944
- Western Front, June 1944
- Western Front, 1 July 1944-31 August 1944
- Western Front, 1 September 1944-30 November 1944
- Befehlshaber Mitte, 1 June 1943-31 August 1943
- Luftflotte Reich, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Luftflotte Reich, January 1944-April 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, May 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, June 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, July 1944-September 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, October 1944-November 1944
- Eastern Front, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Norway, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Norway, 1 July 1944-30 November 1944
- Mediterranean, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Mediterranean, 1 July 1944-30 November 1944
All the best,
Andrew A.
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Glad it was of use. The source is Air Historical Branch Translation VII/92. My copy of the document came from the Australian War Memorial, file reference AWM 54 423/4/103 PART 115. It can also be found at the British National Archives at Kew, somewhere in the range NA AIR 20/7700 to 7712 (that is where all of the AHB translations are located).
There is a whole series of these Luftwaffe summary loss files. They were discussed on the Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum, on this page and those after it: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthrea ... 631&page=8
As I posted there:
These AHB translations are also available at the Australian War Memorial, and at NARA in the United States (Record Group 549). The AWM has the following:
- September 1939-December 1940
- January 1941-December 1941
- Western Front, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Western Front, January 1944-April 1944
- Western Front, May 1944
- Western Front, June 1944
- Western Front, 1 July 1944-31 August 1944
- Western Front, 1 September 1944-30 November 1944
- Befehlshaber Mitte, 1 June 1943-31 August 1943
- Luftflotte Reich, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Luftflotte Reich, January 1944-April 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, May 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, June 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, July 1944-September 1944
- Luftflotte Reich, October 1944-November 1944
- Eastern Front, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Norway, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Norway, 1 July 1944-30 November 1944
- Mediterranean, 1 September 1943-31 December 1943
- Mediterranean, 1 July 1944-30 November 1944
All the best,
Andrew A.
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Andrew
Very many thanks for such a prompt and detailed response.
I was certainly unaware of these documents which are essential reading for anyone with an interest in the Luftwaffe, as well as providing the basis for answering the original question.
It is responses like this which make this forum so important
Warm regards
Spearfish
Very many thanks for such a prompt and detailed response.
I was certainly unaware of these documents which are essential reading for anyone with an interest in the Luftwaffe, as well as providing the basis for answering the original question.
It is responses like this which make this forum so important
Warm regards
Spearfish
Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Here are the totals from my spreadsheet. It would be great to know the levels of damage of course.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
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Great stuff here, thanks.
/Marcus
/Marcus
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The full editable spreadsheet can be downloaded here:
http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/?a ... nt_id=1775
Have fun with it.
http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com/?a ... nt_id=1775
Have fun with it.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42
Re: Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front
Olaf Groehler published somewhat different numbers, namely 2213 aircraft destroyed and 1435 damaged on the Eastern Front by 3.01.1942, although the sum is approximately the same.
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Great information. Thanks for converting it to Excel Urmel. Just to let you know, I downloaded the version from your website and the date cells need to be specified as showing dates; in the current version you only see numbers.
The document refers to damaged aircraft. Is there any more detail on what % of damage. An aircraft that had been damaged more than 60% was written off and used for spares.
The document refers to damaged aircraft. Is there any more detail on what % of damage. An aircraft that had been damaged more than 60% was written off and used for spares.